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Can I be self-employed as a nanny?

35 replies

tankie · 27/11/2008 16:34

I had a job interview today for a nanny share. When I asked if the pay was net or gross they said they would pay me as self employed and I would pay my own tax/NI, and also that they'd pay me for their holiday but not mine.

I was under the impression that a nanny couldn't be self-employed, but they say their current nanny is? I've had a look at the Inland Revenue website but it's not very clear.

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BabyTalk13 · 27/11/2008 18:02

I also agree with flowery.

I had a family who tried this but simply suggested that I wouldnt take the job unless they were willing to do it and told them all the details about Nannytax which they then agreed to do if they used such a site, maybe suggest a tax site to them and explain that its against the law for them to do this but you will take the position if they did it, it might make them think again... worked for me, might work for you. Its worth a try if you do want the job

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2008 17:42

simply say to them you cant be se as a nanny and tell them they are breaking the law

wonder how much they pay their current nanny gross-compared to what they would apy you nett

for all you know, their current nanny might have told them its ok, and they dont know any different

if they wont budge, then even though its the perfect job, you dont want to work for someone who isnt law abiding, and no you wont get holidats, sickness or smp

Ebb · 27/11/2008 17:34

You should get paid pro rata for holidays too.

Re. the self employed bit. I have seen several agencies advertising for self employed nannies so if parents ask agencies and they won't tell them the facts then what hope is there?!

If they don't realise you are amazing then they don't deserve you!

tankie · 27/11/2008 17:29

They did seem quite suprised when I said I didn't think nannies could be self employed - I have my fingers crossed that they'll look into it and realise I'm so brilliant they want to employ me properly.

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poppy34 · 27/11/2008 17:22

no - agree with flowery -its not just that they are wrong re tax but hardly leaves them in running for employer of the year does it? and sickness/maternity pay would be out of question if you were treated as self employed

llareggub · 27/11/2008 17:18

I'd agree with flowery. Anyone that tries to shirk their responsibilities by not paying what they are required to pay will clearly do their utmost to avoid paying you what you are entitled to.

Don't touch them with a bargepole. They'll get the nanny they deserve and you'll find the family you deserve.

tankie · 27/11/2008 17:14

Thing is I really liked them, the hours are perfect, and the ages of the children are just what I'm looking for. Location and pay are ok too - everything is great except for this one issue! I would be disappointed if they went for another candidate over me due to this.

I am a bit worried on where this would leave me over sickness or maternity pay though.

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flowerybeanbag · 27/11/2008 16:56

They are trying to get out of their responsibilities and I suggest an employer who wants to do that isn't a good person to work for.

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/11/2008 16:49

tankie - they are trying to pull a fast one

a nanny is an employeee - you are employed, therefore they are your employers and have to pay your tax and ni by law

they can be fined up to £3k and even possibly a prison sentence if they dont

their current nanny shouldnt be,and she is wrong to be se

mn/temp nannies can be se - you need to talk to a status officer at the tax office and get it in writing - i am both employed and se as i free lance and do mn/temp/night nannying - i choose as and when i want towork and what hours i do

i am also employed by my current nanny family

BabyTalk13 · 27/11/2008 16:43

Iv been told by a few agencies and other people plus I looked on the Nannytax site which has abit about it and understand that you CANT be self employed as a nanny unless you work temp for lots of different families or your constantly changing childcare jobs (such as maternity nurse) not positive on that though