Childminder says she can't provide hot dinner as needs hygiene inspection

but a teacher who was known and trusted by a family but not currently in work would be a good choice for a bit of emergency tuition, no?

cmx2 I find your post a bit bewildering - are you saying that because this cm is currently deregistered due to her change in marital circumstances, something WILL happen to stripey's child while in her care? Sorry, but you don't come across as a "highly trained professional" in your posts, and I would postulate that it isn't stripey who is giving cms a bad name here

If you say you are a
Lawyer
Doctor
Nurse
Vet
Teacher
??
And you aren't

You get prosecuted

Why should Childminders be any different

At the very least neither you nor she should refer to what she does as childminding at the most it is babysitting at the worst criminal, illegal and risky

cmx2 - did you read where I said there are no other childminders? Beieve me I have rung everyone in the village - no vacancies.

She used to be registered when I first used her and only had to un-register because she had to leave her home due to a martal breakdown. She's a very good childminder but has moved into a rented house which to pass an inspection would need stuff doing to it. She can't have alterations done to a rented house.

So I'm sticking with her, I don't think thats careless or reckless at all. I think dd would be devastated if she went somewhere else, even if somewhere was available which it isn't. How am I giving CMs a bad name?

Applause for cmx2

Hypocritical & two-faced

But this is the government we are talking about

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks if your cm has deregistered and still cming she is breaking the law, she has no insurance and you will have no come back when something happens to your child.
i think its careless and wreckless to leave a child with someone who has so little regard for the law and your child. i only hope for your child that they are not left in her care for much longer before some thing happens.
i would also be reporting her to ofsted because yet again its people like her and you for using her which give all good cms a bad name. no wonder cms are struggling to be seen as the highly trained professionals we are when there are people like you and her around.

I know this sounds daft - but I follow the rules - I don't always agree with them

I drive within the speed limit (well most of the time) - I don't just decide the road is safe & drive faster anyway

The rules (both driving & childminding) were created because somewhere, sometime somebody was hurt or killed or neglected or damaged because it wasn't safe.......

Say I cooked chicken nuggets & they weren't totally cooked through (not going to happen - I used to cook for a living before I childminded plus I have a probe & I cut the biggest one in half before I serve) and a child I serve it too gets salmonella

What happens then?

A non registered childminder could be sued by the parent - & lose her home/livelihood

A registered childminder could be sued & her insurance would cover her

A Registered childminder with a food hygiene cert, registered with her local EH Office can prove that she did everything she possibly could to prevent it and has documented records to show that she took reasonable care. So the guilt she would feel for the rest of her life should be (marginally) less

I was surprised to hear that you could be prosecuted for using an unregistered child minder- luckily mine is. Where does that leave people who use au pairs, babysitters and unregistered nannies? Is that ok as it is in the children's own home? If so, that seems a bit hypocritical

"So not sure how she managed to avoid trouble when she was reported." - umm I guess she lied

Well unfortunatly there are no registered childminders with any vacancies in a 6 mile radius. So if I want to work then I have no choice. Threads like this make you realise why there are so few childminders.

If Social Services have any concerns & were to investigate - they could decide to consider leaving your child with unregistered care as 'neglect'

It's not particularly likely unless they have other concerns but it is possible

Accepting money (or reward in kind) for minding children under 8 for more than 2 hours a day is illegal. Paying money (or reward in kind) for your child under 8 to be cared for in someone else's home for more than 2 hours is illegal.

I just been googling and apparantly she can't look after my dd even if she is a friend. DD only 7. Only a relative or a registered childminder could. So not sure how she managed to avoid trouble when she was reported. Oh well, dd's nearly 8!

What could the potential consequence be anyway for me, if she wasn't a "friend"?

Yeah, someone reported her and she got a visit. But she had by then become a good friend so that's fine and they said was ok.

Yes - but it doesn't mean it's safe, for anyone

didnt you predict that heppening with lots of people KatyM?

Gulp

Do be careful - both you & she are breaking the law; both you and she can be prosecuted; she can be fined, your potential consequences can be more serious

I hope she has your children for less than 2hrs or they are over 8 - in which case you would be OK

Not an alternative - still use the same childminder, she's just not a registered childminder anymore. So no rules, ofsted inspections, etc.

I mean, how on earth did kids survive before ofsted??

StripeyKnickersSpottySocks - have you found good alternative care?

I can see why my child minder has de-registered and am glad she has to be honest.

It was me who told Saz it's not longer necessary and yes, they confirmed it's our council which are doing it as a questionnaire like katymac's by the sounds of it.

I'm in the middle of registering as a new CM and have had the council out to inspect last week. I had to fill in some forms, he looked at everything in the kitchen but said that it was fine, they don't expect everything to be swabbed everyday, pets are fine. Also said that although they are EU guidleines, they are trying to be as flexible as possibible as CMs are already so heavily regulated. It wasn't too bad at all, but it does vary from county to county so if her council is more stringent, it could be an issue for her. Good tip - get some fridge thermomenters from Lakeland - v cheap but shows willing!