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whooosh · 05/10/2008 22:11

Been looking for an Au Pair since nanny left in the Summer (actually loving have the house to ourselves so been a bit slack about it).Out of the blue,managed to interview a Romanian girl,already in the country,on Saturday.
Have offered her the job and she has accepted-ariving Tue PM.
A couple of questions.....

Other than a bunch of flowers,a bit of local inof etc-waht should we have ready for her?

Secondly,we are off on holiday for a week from 14th Ocotber-big risk leaving new AP in the house so soon after joining us I know-but should we pay her a full weeks salary? SHe is starting pre-our holiday at her request as she couldn't afford her rent where she is now.

Should we leave her at all?

She seems really sweet and appears to have had a pretty rough time since being in the UK but we do only have one side of the story.....can you tell I am nervous????

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cheapskatemum · 09/10/2008 22:49

OMG Squiffy! Your experience is confluent with mine - our last Turkish AP came to us with driving licence. Driving Instructor took her for 2 lessons, then suggested I took her on practise school run (she drove TO the school, so no kids on board). There was no way I was going to let her drive the kids!!! 2 weeks of driving lessons & sharing lifts with neighbours later, she finally admitted to my Turkish-speaking friend that she couldn't drive.

Sorry for thread hijack. Good luck Whoosh.

shellbelle2 · 08/10/2008 16:49

We have a fabulous German Au Pair who is a real advocate for Au Pairing.She tells us that she is very happy with us. I made an effort to ask the agency to supply me with the phone numbers of other families in our town with au pairs. From this list i set up a meeting with another German aupair, I went with her to meet the girl. Luckily they hit it off and are enjoying going out and about together. They are of a similar age too 18 and 19 which helps. My au pair did not wish to go to a language school as her English is superb so this was another way for her to socialise.

whooosh · 08/10/2008 14:02

That's a good point-not sure it will allay my fears of a large Romanian lorry rolling up and filling up whilst we are away

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googgly · 08/10/2008 13:39

There's no way I would let her stay in the house, but if you do, make sure you've got photocopies of her passport and that kind of thing, and that she knows about it.

whooosh · 08/10/2008 11:14

I told her last night that if she passes the assessment we will help either pay her rent for the week we are away or contribute to her going back to Romania for a week (£106 on a coach in case any of you are tempted )

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Shiner · 08/10/2008 11:12

OOops, sorry, didn't read the last post saying you'd already told her she can't stay. Must pay more attention when posting!

Shiner · 08/10/2008 11:10

If you are worried about leaving in your house whilst you are away, can you pay her rent so that she can stay in her current accommodation? It's money, but you may feel your peace of mind is worth it. I was an au pair myself once, in France, and wouldn't have expected to have been left alone in the house for so long to start with.

All the best with the decision!

whooosh · 08/10/2008 09:44

Squiffy!

Still Hoping BadPups' lovely Au Pair might have a lovey friend {hopeful emoticon}

In the meantime ploughing on with getting her assessed nearer her and have told her she won't be able to stay here while we are away.

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squiffy · 08/10/2008 09:20

I tend to get my AP's from Scandinavia. They are generally horrified at how poorly we drive here in the UK . And the BSM chaps always give them a big thumbs up when they assess them.

Now the Turkish girl we had...... well, let's just say that I didn't expect to have a full blown argument at a T junction onto a dual carriageway about whether or not one should stop and give way....

mumof2222222222222222boys · 08/10/2008 09:06

i feel for you Whooosh. Fwiw we are on our 3rd French au pair (Au Pairs by Pebbles) and driving is a must for us. All have been absolutely fine and we only arranged a formal lesson for the first one. All went out several times with DH and no driving with children until he declared them safe. My rules are that they must have held a driving licence for at least a year - partly due to the experience I feel they need to have and also partly due to a MN thread that talked about the insurance cost rocketing if they have driven for a lesser time.

whooosh · 07/10/2008 22:45

Interestingly I had narrowed my search on AuPair World to Germans and Swedes..... and this one slipped through the net.
She probably wouldn't have caught my eye except she was already in the UK and we could really interview her.

Had 5 days of hell 2yrs ago with super-qualifed,referenced-up-to-the-eyeballs-reserched-beyond-normality, Canadian who was a complete nightmare.Knew the minute we picked her up from the airport she was wrong so have been slightly tainted.

She ticks as many boxes as I guess any AuPAir will so feel I should give her a chance.If she flunks the assessment then-goodbye.
If she passes then I think I will suggest an hour a day pracise for her on her own....

Oh God,why can't life be simple?We are realy nice,house is normal but nice,they are treated like a member of the family,the odd perk,only one child....should be simple no?

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cheapskatemum · 07/10/2008 22:37

Aupairworld and greataupair websites always seem to have loads of young German women who want to be au pairs in UK. Have recruited our last 2 APs this way. Both have been excellent drivers and really nice. You can talk to them on the phone. Try it?

Simply · 07/10/2008 22:32

I second listening to the gut instinct box. I wish I'd listened to my (and my dd's) gut instinct on our first ap. Oh, to turn back the clock!

DadInsteadofMum · 07/10/2008 20:43

Whoosh - sounds like there is one box she doesn't tick, the gut instinct one. I have interviewed a few who seemed OK, answered all the questions well and seemed experienced but I just didn't feel comfortable so I said no. Couldn't up with a reason for rejecting them that I could explain but something didn't feel right. If you are not 100% comfortable should you be taking her on (and reading the earlier posts were you 100% happy before the driving issue came up).

I always take mine out for a little test drive, to date they have all hit the kerb (hard) at the same point on a tight bend near here (two tyres and one wheel down to date). If I am not happy they then go out with my FIL who is a driving instructor, they are then not allowed out witht he kids until he is happy with them, but then I guess not everybody has a FIL with a dual controlled car.

whooosh · 07/10/2008 20:04

Badpups-am in Knebworth but in Broxbourne very regularly....25mins away.

Have always recruited nannies myself-perhaps Au Pair are better through an agency.....

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whooosh · 07/10/2008 20:00

Thank you!!!!
God (not that I ever di)I nevre want to go to Romania!

She still seems very confident in her driving ability and willing ot do an assessment (I admire her balls!)

Am now trying to see if there is someone nearer to her who will assess her-I guess I am a bit of a softie but she ticks all the other boxes (as far as we know) so if she can pass the driving then......?

(not overly hopeful tbh)

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Badpups · 07/10/2008 19:58

Hi Whooosh

I'm in Broxbourne - whereabouts are you?

If you're interested, my current AP came through Childcare International (am I allowed to name agencies on here?) who seem to specialise in German APs. They sent us lots of excellent cvs and were thorough. They've placed quite a few APs in Herts according to my AP.

(PS agree with Simply and Ingles2)

ingles2 · 07/10/2008 19:41

I agree with Simply, Whoosh...(unfortunately) it's her problem she can't afford the rent and I wouldn't be leaving a girl I'd just met in the house alone whilst I went on holiday. Probably best to leave this one I think. Sorry (again)

Simply · 07/10/2008 19:06

whooosh Sorry, I've sped read the most recent posts on the thread and I've forgotten I'm sure the most part of it though I've read it from the beginning. Fwiw, I think that her not being able to afford her rental place is her problem, not yours. If she doesn't pass the assesment then she's going to have to afford it or find another family sharpish. She doesn't sound an ideal candidate for you and if you make lots of allowances at the beginning, you may find that it just carries on that way. I would not be happy leaving someone I hardly knew living in my house whist I was away on holiday. I've been to Romania and even the professional minibus and coach drivers that drove us (on a no-expense spared type trip) had a very poor standard of driving. In fact, dh recently suggested going back on holiday with the kids as the hotel was fab and very reasonably priced but it was about 2 hours drive from the airport and I feel I've used up a couple of my 9 lives (ok, so I'm not a cat but you know what I mean!) already and I wouldn't risk having the kids with us. Good luck with whatever you decide.

whooosh · 07/10/2008 17:02

Thank you all for your honesty-it has helped immensely (well it has scared the crap out of me tbh).
It appears to be a very ROmanian problem-according to the dozen or so driving instructors I spoke to today

I emailed her and told her that we really needed her to have an assessment WRT her safety and competence on the road and I thought it best if she came for a day (without her stuff),did the assessment and then if she was "certified safe" then I would take her to pick up her luggage.

She seemed ot understand the situation and was happy for this.Only problem is I can't get her assessed until Monday morning and we go on holiday on Tues.
HAd sh ebeen here a week I may have felt comfoprtable leaving her but not after less than a day.
SHe has now emailed ot say she doesn't think she can afford to stay in her rented place another two weeks..........

Badpups-where abouts in Herts are you?
And does your wonderful German AuPair have a wondeful Greman friend who wants ot be an AuPair in Herts as well???

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Badpups · 07/10/2008 16:45

Hi Whooosh

I wasn't going to post my experience of my Romanian AP's driving but as others have thought I'd add my view.
This was actually one of the reasons that we let ours go as we paid for her to have some driving lessons and then DH took her out. His feeling was that she wasn't safe to drive the car on her own even after loads of practice let alone with the children in it. To cut a long story short we never let her drive when she was with us but she didn't think that she had any problems and thought that we were too fussy! I gave her a copy of the Highway Code but she refused to read it saying that the roads in the UK (just north of M25) were the same as in Romania .

We've now got a German AP who's brilliant.

Kathyis6incheshigh · 07/10/2008 12:18

Thanks Issy - what a good idea, I hadn't thought about sport but she is quite sporty and I seem to remember volleyball mentioned on her cv I think.

Issy · 07/10/2008 12:16

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Kathyis6incheshigh · 07/10/2008 11:52

Issy, are yours slightly older than the average? I have a Hungarian AP aged 27 who has just started and I want to try to help her make friends.
We're in the north and I seem to remember you are in London but I wonder if your APs have any advice for mine about how to meet other Hungarians in the UK?

mummypoppins · 07/10/2008 11:43

ooooooohhhhhhhhhh Issy you lucky thing. I had one form Germnay like that. I should have locked her in the cellar and never let her go home!

ha ha....................now have a nanny who is 4 x the cost and not half as good.

Yes good luck whoosh. We are all here to support x