Live in nanny announces marriage and baby plan!

Thank you, Quint. Have now signed up. It is against my religeon to miss the MN Christmas Party.

Athene - highjack:

you cant let this one slip under your nose

I really think there is a potential match here...

How the driving coming along, BN?

How's the job hunt? Are you willing to move away from the area? Just thought I'd keep my eyes and ears open for you.

I understand... I understand that your precious brickwork BBQ is of more value than your child..!

BN - you are NOT allowed use of BBQ!!!!

oh... + I'd like full access to the BBQ should they have one!!!

pricks up ears

I'm not planning on getting married nor up the duff for at least 5 years...

but I would like to have a cat+not have to do housework every minute of the day that I draw breath

I am but a simple nanny with simple wants

Completely agree, Quint. There is a big can of worms here I for one would not want to open. The easiest solution is to say no to the husband. Of course he would need to be prepared to get another nanny. (He might want to contact BotheredNanny)

Athene, I think this is a very complicated situation! I am not saying she has to have a tenancy agreement, but the boss might have to think about her rights to the accommodation in those terms legally, and if so, then he may have to accept not just the husband, but inlaws and babies too! He has to check it out.

Also, if her husband is in India, will they have to apply for a family reunion visa for him to come and stay, and how long does that normally take? Can he come on a tourist visa and apply for residency from here? Or will he have to do it from India? Will he have to prove that he is financially able to support himself in the UK, thus using his wife's salary as proof? Ditto Acommodation?

Ops boss has a lot he needs to check out.

A nanny from India, living in the UK, will not necessarily be able to look into these things herself.

hmm, this is coming round to a point on another thread about a tenancy for a live-in nanny. Either she is a live-in nanny or she is a tenant, I would have though. If he hands her a tenency and askes her to pay rent, doesn't that make her a live-out employee who now has a few more right (like working hours and nimum wage)

Is this girl a UK citizen? What about her husband?

posted too soon.

When my friends nanny got married, she moved from live in to live out. Her employers helped her find accommodation nearby, helped her with deposit, etc, and the nanny signed the tenancy agreement in her name. My friend upgraded her salary to reflect that she was living out, not in.

Do they get to live in the bungalow while she is on her year of maternity leave> If so, where will the temp nanny live?

I really think he accepts there will be a family complete with babies or he says no to husband moving in. Anything else risks him getting sued on grounds of sexual discrimination.

I find it hard to believe that an indian male will sit home and do babycare.

I reckon sooner or later, his mum and dad will come too.

Any tenancy agreement would state immediate family is allowed to come and live at rented property, and legal definition of immediate family is mum and dad and sister and brother and children of person on the tenancy agreement. I expect there is no agreement, but I think the employer have to consider things legally in terms of there actually being a tenancy agreement. But I could be wrong. I would just be prepared for the fact that husbands mum and dad may be far away.

May I advise that your boss takes legal advice on the entire situation?

whoops hit send

or employ and say welcome to stay but make clear that job wont be offered with the nanny coming back with ther child and then the accomd will be with drawn

if he he employs nannys husband, then who will look after the baby when she has one?

Could he employ the husband? Does he need a gardener, cleaner or caretaker? If so, both husband and nannys loyalty would still be with the employer.

So this Indian man is going to stay in the bungalow and look after the baby while she looks after someone else's kids. Do you really think that's going to happen?

Besides, he can't let her go because she gets pregnant. That's illegal. If he lets the husband in, he is going to end up with a whole family. Maybe he's okay with that. I wouldn't be. (although I might be if I had a bungalow in the garden for them to live in)

the OP said that that the nanny wants to move in to seperate accom with her husband - I dont see a problem with that so assuming nanny will then be live out - if the job can be this then fine

or does the accom come with the job,ie a seperate flat?

Obv as and when a baby come, if the employers doesnt want their nanny to bring the nannys own child, then thats his right - though may take a few months/longer to conceive so I wouldnt say get ride of the nanny now

If the accom comes with the job,then if the nanny isnt employed anymore then will lose the accom that comes wih job

I am a little confused what the problem is (tho also have night nannied last night so im tired) keep the nanny on till she gets pregnant, then offer job to her without nanny bringing baby back with her

I don't see how he could allow a husband but not babies. What is he going to do when she gets pregnant... evict the baby? Evict all three of them? That sounds very messy inded.

I would say no to husband moving in if I didn't want the babies (and I wouldn't). I caould manage a live-out nanny who brought a baby with her. But, not a live in. I wouldn't be prepared to return to a house of cots, baby toys, nappy bins, and the other paraphanalia and mess and stink that comes with babies for a baby that isn't even mine.

Also, what do you mean by "arranged marriage"? If you mean this leiterally, I am wondering if we are talking about a culture where the man rules and woman does as he says and makes lots of babies for her big strong man. And if this is the case I think her loyalty is going to be to serving her man and not so much dedication to the employer. Maybe I've read too much into this.

He's under no obligation to let the husband move in and personally I wouldnt. Perhaps for an agreed rent to cover the extra costs re water etc. To expect to live rent and bill free is a bit cheeky - for the nanny yes but not for her family.

I also agree with him that the baby should not be bought to work, he has to keep her job open for her but he has no legal obligation to let her bring her child. She wont be able to give full attention to the job she is being paid to do with her own child in tow.

Well, he is under no obligation to let the husband move in, although he could if he is happy to do so. However, this could result in increased costs for water, etc. Assuming the husband works, there probably isn't much effect on heating and LX, it costing the same to turn on the lights for one as for two. However, live-ins often have at least some food provided by their families, is he planning in parttaking in this too? There is a poster on here called Issy who has had several couples work for her and who might be able to point out the advantages and disadvantages. However, she actually advertised for couples, rather than ending up with one unexpectedly!

An employee's rights to maternity pay and other entitlements don't depend on whether her employer has decided to try and fiddle the tax man or not.

She is entitled to SMP and other employment rights like any other employee - it's not her fault her employer is not paying her tax. That's his problem to sort out - just because he is acting illegally doesn't mean he gets to choose whether to pay maternity pay or not.

Sorry about sloppy spelling etc in my posts, I am also trying to supervise an Olympic pole vaulting competition in the back garden between three 10-yr olds. WOnder how I can persuade them to choose something less dangerous!