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How much should I pay a nanny who brings her own child with her?

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sallyss · 08/08/2008 22:37

I am considering employing a nanny who will bring her daughter with her to work. How much should I pay her - same as a nannyshare? But what about the tax?
Any advice?
Thanks, Sally

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AtheneNoctua · 06/10/2009 20:23

Emma, your post is a fine example of the selfish entitlement culture that is rife in Britain today.

No one else is entitled to bring their children to work for free. What makes you think you should?

I think you should consider how much a prospective employer who lets you bring your child to work is saving you in your own childcare. It is a perk for you, not the employer who could just as easily hire a baggage-free nanny.

Gimme gimme gimme... Grow up.

I think 60-70% of the going rate is fair pay for a nanny with own child/children.

emal77 · 06/10/2009 20:02

As a qualified nanny with 15yrs experience and now my old child of 20mths I actually feel shocked at some peoples reaction to nannies bringing their own child to work with them. After all is it such a shock that a nanny should want to have children of their own......considering the majority of us do this job because we love children. I have been with my current family for 5yrs, they have 1 little girl of 5yrs, and an only child, as is my son. I think that the arrangement works wonderfully and the children are great company for each other. I have never put my own child above the child that I care fors needs, in fact I would say my own child quite often comes second. As for breaking toys etc......this has never happened to me yet but Im sure it will at some point. I would simlpy replace the toy that was broken, but this could easily happen with any child you have over to play! My boss and I are very open and honest with each other and I know that she is very happy and so is the child that I look after. I would actually say that I am a better nanny since having my own child and any-body would be extremely lucky to have me and my son in there home looking after there children. I have allot of friends that have their own child and are finding it hard to get jobs or being offered jobs at a reduced rate of pay. I think its terrible that people want to reduce pay by 50% because a nanny has there own child. You are still getting the same care, the same hours and a better understanding from a nanny that has there own child. I think people need to change their way of thinking and see that its actually a positive thing and not a negative.
Thanks Emma

overthemill · 11/08/2008 17:16

you can add in a probation period to sort out those kinds of niggles imo. i think there are only positives personally

feelingfedup · 11/08/2008 16:38

negatives:

  • The children might not get on and nanny coupld be spending much time dealing with arguments/tears.
  • All the wear and tear on your home/furniture/your childs toys of having another child in the house.
  • Whenever anything gets broken/trashed it was never nanny's child.
  • Cost of food of an extra child

  • If child is not same age as your own then you have to watch out for your child being taken to places just to suit the wants/needs of nanny's child.

btw - I think it is very much like a nannyshare but without any of the benefits as you are not getting a 50% reduction. I would be looking for at least a third off the daily rate. Afterall, think about how much nanny is saving not having to shell out for childcare.

nannynick · 11/08/2008 15:18

Make sure you agree wages as Gross, as if they are working 2 days per week for you, they could well have another job on other days.

sallyss · 11/08/2008 14:55

Thanks for help with this. I spoke to a nanny agency and they said I should look to pay approx £15 less a day (e.g. £65 rather than £80 if a 10 hour day on £8 per hour). I don't think it's fair to pay them as a nannyshare rate - and agree it's on experience etc. but I do think there should be a reduction.

I live in London. I am meeting 2 nannies with their own child - 1 has 5+ yrs experience, 1 has 2 yrs experience. It will be for 2 days a week.

I don't think I have any issue with nanny bringing own child...and it is play mate for my DD. Any negatives I should be aware of?

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sarah293 · 09/08/2008 18:07

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overthemill · 09/08/2008 17:53

i just think that when they bring their own child it isn't the same as a nanny share at all. you should paythem according to what you evaluate their work to be worth.

imananny · 09/08/2008 15:29

oops - scrap the lst paragraph - was meant to go on another thread

imananny · 09/08/2008 15:28

appoligizes (sp) then - I thought I had read somewhere on one of the threads that one MN as nanny was bringing her child, she wanted to pay her half the going rate as it was like a nanny share

can au pairs be ofsted registered and then parents be able to claim the vouchers, as then the au pair is being paid, rather then receiving pocket money for 25 hours - if registered then that would make the au pair comeunder a nanny catorgry iyswim

jura · 09/08/2008 12:14

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imananny · 09/08/2008 09:26

overthe mill - think you must be one of the few on here who agree with me that nannies who are mums who bring their own child with them - should be paid the same as a nanny who doesnt

I can understand maybe reducing hourly amount slightly, but some on here think as a nanny brings their child, it is a nannyshare and want to pay them 1/2 the average rate ie £4/5 an hour

sallyss - depends on area and age and exp of the nanny imo

jura · 08/08/2008 22:46

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overthemill · 08/08/2008 22:45

we have had 2 nannies who brought their own children with them. both were fantastic, very professional and exceptionally fine carers for my dd.

we paid them exactly the same as any other nanny we employed - well what i mean is, we didn't reduce their pay because they brought their own dcs.

what you need to have clear is that you are paying them to care for your child and it is taht you need to evaluate and pay accordingly. i never worried about this one jot - we interviewed prospective nanny, then a second time had them bring their dcs with them and then worked out together how it would work.

ime nannies with their own children are so mature and experienced you get a fab experience.

we are still in touch with most of our former nannies (this sounds dreadful - we had a series of temps to cover my odd work pattern!)and they bring their dcs for playdates and still babysit for our family.

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