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To get an aupair or not, that is the question!!! What is it really like having an aupair?

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Marshmellow · 27/07/2008 20:42

hi all, i have 3 small children and no grandparents around to offer any support. My husband works long hours and although i cope very well, i do sometimes think that to have an aupair and to be able to 'pop out' occasionally must be lovely. Is it?
My dh and i never get to spend any time together as, like i said, we have no family to come and babysit or help us with the children when we want to decorate, garden etc for example. What is the real cost of having an aupair? What is it really like having an extra person in the house all the time? We have a 4 bed house so we'd need to put 2 of the children in together but that wouldnt be a problem but it wouldn't be a massive mansion with oodles of space, does that matter? Do people frown upon you for having an aupair and not working yourself? What does your aupair do? Sorry for all the questions!!!

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cheapskatemum · 30/07/2008 23:08

We have had many au pairs over the years and they work pretty much identically to dannyb's. We have been paying for English lessons recently, but to me they seem cheap at £50 for a whole term (10 weeks), 1 x 2 and a half hour lesson/week. I figure that it's in our interest for them to speak & understand English better.

catepilarr · 29/07/2008 22:59

to me it also sounds like as one of the typical aupair jobs

HarrietTheSpy · 29/07/2008 22:29

Dannyb
Do you mind saying which agency.

SqueakyPop · 29/07/2008 21:56

I think your aupair job is very classic, danny.

dannyb · 29/07/2008 20:33

I have had 2 au pairs and employed both of them through an agency. My au pair works 25 hours a week, 3 hours in the morning and 2 hours in the afternoon although this will change a little after the summer. She does a combination of childcare (giving children breakfast, playing with and looking after them for a couple of hours at a time) and cleaning. She gives the house a good dust and hoover twice a week and this includes cleaning the bathrooms. She also does the childrens washing and changes their beds once a week. I do our washing and making and changing beds. She does most of the ironing but I tend to share it with her.

I have run this past the agents I use and they are all in agreement that this is fine for an aupair. I do not ask her to clean out cupboards, clean silver or do major spring cleaning, I either do this myself or get my old cleaner to come in for a one off clean.

As my husband works very long hours she does not eat with us but I do cook for her most evenings and she heats it up at lunchtime or else makes herself some pasta or eggs.

She babysits 2 nights a week and is out all other nights as she has made lots of friends in the area. We gave her an oyster card with £10 on it, a PAYG mobile with £20 and she has a TV, freeview and DVD player in her room which is ideal as she watches seriously crap TV. She is also welcome to use our broadband and laptop in her free time.

SqueakyPop · 29/07/2008 15:10

No template.

It is just a list of duties and expectations.

geisha · 29/07/2008 15:08

squeaky - did you devise your own agreement or can you but a template? Any advice? Thanks

SqueakyPop · 29/07/2008 14:40

We do that, via email, during the negotiation stage before they arrive.

geisha · 29/07/2008 14:25

Another question for those already with AP's - do you agree anything in writing at te begining of the AP's stay, or is it more informal than that?

squiffy · 29/07/2008 14:15

it would certainly be less than once a month if it was left to me to do.

StarlightMcKenzie · 29/07/2008 13:47

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Quattrocento · 29/07/2008 13:35

I'm surprised that your house needs more than 8 hours of cleaning a week. Our house is large and it survives on that. It's quite clean too!

SqueakyPop · 29/07/2008 12:32

We could not possibly survive on hoovering and cleaning only twice a week!

I think the house could take a full clean 3x a day! (it doesn't get it though).

catepilarr · 29/07/2008 12:27

no hoovering? wow

Quattrocento · 29/07/2008 11:52

She comes twice a week and does four hours a day. She does lots of stuff. The AP is expected to do normal tidying but no hoovering/cleaning with sprays and polishes etc

squiffy · 29/07/2008 09:25

We have a cleaner who comes once a week to do the 'heavy' stuff (which I call changing sheets, cleaning bathrooms, washing floors & hoovering and dusting throughout)

The AP is expected to do 8 hours of her 25 each week doing the lighter stuff , which involves a daily wipe round the kitchen, tidying stuff up during the week and helping with 'light ironing' (stuff like duvet covers and our work clothes all go away to be pressed, the kids clothes are done by the nanny, so it is just the leftover stuff that she is expected to do). I think for many AP's the 8 hours might be more like 12 (half their hours). It all depends on what the AP and family are happiest with.

catepilarr · 28/07/2008 23:37

c) if they were to be treated as a tourist and therefore used europian health insurance card from their country (while continuing paying health insurance in their home country), the travel insurance would cover more costs then the card. but i think they always get treated as uk residents.

catepilarr · 28/07/2008 23:32

eventhough eligible for nhs treatment, the aupair might to want to get travel insurance in their home country for
a) beeing transported home in case of illness/death
b/ because they might need a proof that they were insured abroad to their health insurance company at home when they discontinue health insurance at home

SqueakyPop · 28/07/2008 23:31

Does your cleaner come every day, QC?

SqueakyPop · 28/07/2008 23:31

Does your cleaner come every day, QC?

Quattrocento · 28/07/2008 20:44

Our AP does not do any cleaning as we have a cleaning lady. I think whoever posted about Au-pairs from the EU and just registering at the doctors is right. Healthcare insurance only really becomes an issue for AP's from non-EU countries. The issue of paying for language courses is a bit surprising though because our local college has started charging for EU residents now - where previously they didn't.

geisha · 28/07/2008 20:31

Sorry to hijack marshmellow -

for those who already have an au pair, do you have a cleaner as well? How much cleaning is your au pair required to do?

MarmadukeScarlet · 28/07/2008 11:44

Mine is German squiffy, have had a good Finn too.

The only issue with GP is short term/summer aps - mine will only see them if I/they fill in a TR form (temp resident) but this form only lasts a certain amount of days, so I have one here to be filled in in case of need. Will not register them as the cost in man hours etc to do so for 8 weeks stay is not worth it.

squiffy · 28/07/2008 11:20

Our EU AP's have always been able to enrol with local GP and not had to pay. Would be a surprise if this has changed?

stressed2007 · 28/07/2008 11:17

why do you need health insurance ( see previous post) for an au pair if she is from EU?