Me again! Thinking about telling my newly employed nanny that she can no longer have the job!

nannyl I think you fail to understand the OP's pov.

This is a potential employee who withheld information until she hoped it was 'too late' for ziopin to change her mind.

Ziopin will be left in the shit if she employs this nanny.

Parents are human too. Teachers have a responsibility toward their students. Ziopin doesn't want to take time off work if she can help it.

Personally i would not want to work for anyone who wouldnt let me have my honeymoon off

I read your original thread and i feel that ys you are being completely unreasonable.

Us nannies are human too.... we get married / have babys / get ill / have car crashes / have holidays etc in the same way that everyone else does.

To not employer a nanny because of a honey moon is IMO unbelievable

in the past year i have had time off due to dentist ruining my tooth [extream pain emotion]
Norovirus (given to me when my 4 year old charge vomited all over me twice, and everyone in the entire hosue got it)
My Dad had a stroke, so i needed to be in hospital with him....
and then i was in a nasty car crash (10 days after my dads stroke, and during those 10days my bosses own father died ) so i ahd anotehr couple of weeks off after my car crash

If Id have been your nanny woud you have sacked me for not being avaliable to you?

My bosses have been 100% supportive (even when my dad was ill etc while their own dad was dieing and they needed me more than ever)

I have been paid all my wages

and id NEVER work for anyone who thinks its unreasonable for me to have a honeymoon!

Agree that a good way to approach this is to re-confirm with her that holiday can not be taken during term-time, thus she will either have to change her honeymoon date (unlikely) or not accept the job.
Do this verbally at this point. With luck she will decide that she does not want to accept the job on the terms under which it is offered.

Time off usually has to be agreed with the employer. If you back to her and say that she can't have holiday during term time (as stipulated in the interview), then it's up to her to either cancel the honeymoon (which she won't) or turn the job down.

Just tell her what you've told us, that you have tried to arrange cover but you can't and you will understand if she is unable to accept the job as it would mean cancelling the honeymoon.

Can grandparents not help out - do you realy want to do the whole interview process again - what would you say if you were offered a new job verbally, you then told them you were getting married and they said sorry you can't have the job!

How is it mean? If you can't meet her holiday request you can't meet it - you've tried your best. Just explain to her that you have tried as hard as you can to sort something out but you are unable to do so, and therefore you will not be able to give her that time off. Say you are very sorry and will understand if she feels she wants to decline the offer as a result.

presumably

Withdrawing an offer is technically a breach of contract but you'd be fine.

Wouldn't it be simpler just to say she can't have the time off, then she will refuse the job herself, presumbly. You are within your rights to refuse holiday requests so just say no and leave the ball in her court.

My understanding is that a verbal offer is legally binding (although harder to prove). Having said that, if it was clear that the contract was to include holidays in school holidays only, then she would be in breach anyway. So I think you can pull out without any repercussions, but I'm not a legal or hr person, so don't take my word for it!

Having said that, it can be hard to find a good nanny, and if she was fine in all other respects then you might find it easier in the long run to find a childminder or nanny to cover temporarily. Do you have another suitable candidate?

I remember reading your original thread.

Has something else happened that has led you to this decision? I remember that you were really pleased with her until she mentioned that she was needing some time off for her honeymoon. Did you speak to her about it? Did you tell her that she would have to have time off for that unpaid as it was outside of school holidays?

It seems a shame that you haven't been able to sort it. Why are you against a temp nanny? Most temp nannies are great at slotting in quickly. They are used to adjusting quickly to different childrens and families needs.

OK, I can see both sides of this.

Had you stipulated that holidays must be taken in school holidays, or something similar?

Can you and your dp/h take leave to cover her absence, and might she agree to unpaid leave?