Me again! Thinking about telling my newly employed nanny that she can no longer have the job!

I hope you have by now said something to "the nanny" who thinks she has a job to start, i realize she's not the nanny for you, but you really really must tell her soon, as she will i expect be upset as she has no idea that you have changed your mind about her!! She has the biggest day of her life coming up and now she will have to go job hunting again!!

She wasn't good with them. Had she been, I would have been more accomodating.

NKF, what was the nanny like with your dc's? Given that she'd obv done even a little work for you were you more or less inclined to accomodate her requests?

Playing devils advocate a bit, certainly seem to do that a lot on here but I am VERY curious!

yes aupairs are live-in /part of the cultural exchange ;)/

dont au pairs have to live in (as from another country) and didntthink you wanted a live in

if you REALLY are going to get rid of her,do it soon, as you need to find a new nanny,and time is getting on - its JULY tom

so Ziopin - have you told your nanny to be that you dont need her anymore?

And started on the new hunt

I was going to say exactly the same hing, Jura. Great minds...

No legal repercussions. She was a temporary. Hired to do a certain number of days over a certain period. And, at the inteview, all the days ere fine. And then, bit by bit, they weren't.

What I should add, it was because they had so much notice that they just took their holidays at the same time.

I think they fact she didn't tell you at the interview would make me think she wasn't being open.

When I went for interviews 6 months before I was getting married I told the parents there an dthen the dates I woiuld need off and told them they were non negotiable as everything was booked. It didn't stop me getting the job.

Hmmmm... 20 hours a week sounds like an au pair to me. Do the kids share a room? If not could they, freeing up a room for a lovely au pair, who will cost you a whole lot less than the nanny and her perceived entitlements.

Just an idea. I've probably forgotten some critical bit of information which is the reason why this is not feasible... like one of the kids is 6 months old or something.

My kids share a room so that we can have a live in nanny.

I was going to say, surely the only issue with a live-in is whether you have room/are happy with someone else living with you? In terms of cost it's quite a bit cheaper, no?

"I don't think I could afford a live in "

But, surely a live-in is cheaper than a live-out.

ilovemydog - you say if the nanny to be has a solution - what would this be? a friend of hers to have the children - but Ziopin doesnt want that - as I am sure nanny wouldnt cancel her honeymoon therefore if there cant be any compromise to be had and Ziopin would have to start her search again

as i said before, as job is to start in sept, there are only 2 months till then, and many nannies i know have to give 6/8weeks notice AND Ziopin still has to advertise/interview/check ref etc

PLUS new nanny MAY have a holiday booked in term time, I often go away then as costs so much less, plus I dont want to have a holiday with lots of children about - LOVE kids dearly but not on my holiday so the same problem may occur

um, if she didn't tell you she needed the 2 weeks off, during term time, sort of is a deal breaker?

All these points about whether you can rescind the contract applies only really if it goes to court.

Why don't you just tell her that the 2 weeks are a big deal and unless she has a solution, you'll have to find someone else?

I don't think you are being unreasonable. It would be a different issue if she was already working for you and she needed to take the holiday. You would have planned for it.

NannyL, there are a few nont so trivial differences between your situation and ziopin's:
1- Your bosses are (presumably wealthy) doctors and can afford to pay someone else when you are not there.
2- Your bosses do not work strictly term time themselves.
3- You are already their employee. And they therefore have an existing relationship and responsibility to look after your welfare.
4- All of things that have happened to you have been unforseeable and out of your control.
5- You have not deceived your bosses.

Ziopin's situation is very different. And I suspect her potential nanny shares your view on nanny entitlement or she would not have dropped this in as "Oh by the way, forgot to mention at interview..." I think potential nanny thinks this time off is rightfully hers. Wonder what other time off she might hold the same attitude towards?

Ziopin, have you got any chance of doing a live in? I can't remember hold old your kids are. Are they in school?

you are all forgetting that every job is different and that circumstances are different for every one, some people don't like giving and on the other hand some people don't like taking you have got to get the balance right it's all about giving and taking, there is no right nor wrong it's about what makes everyone happy, it wouldn't work if you can't give and take on either the nanny and employers side it's about how to make a happy medium!!! You can't talk about what may happen if the nanny was ill in term time, no-body knows, so what would happen if a teacher was ill? The school sorts it out and no harm done!!

The other thing is though what happens if the nanny is ill on top of these two weeks in term time. Shortly after returning from my honeymoon I was off work for a week with a kidney infection.

So, yes, the unexpected can happen and I do realise that having used a childminder for the last three years and having had to work round when she hurt her back and when her Mum died but then adding in the holidays in term time on top.

Although actually I prefer my CM to take term time holidays because it is easier to get someone to have DS before/after school than all day. But my CM has chosen two weeks in the summer hols that are a different two weeks to our own hols so I will be working round that.

Only if disclosed at interview. The employer/school could then decide whether or not to honour the holiday.

islandofsodor - it depends - most schools/employers would reliese they would have to honour any holidays pre booked - but i see your point