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Problem with Child Ratios for 4 and 5 years olds, its all changing under EYFS

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ayla99 · 21/05/2008 19:03

P.51 B: Childminders. 2nd bullet point

"where four- and
five-year-old children only attend the childminding setting before and/or after a normal school
day, they may be classed as children over the age of five for the purposes of the adult:child ratio"

Ofsted have confirmed today to me and others by email that this means that 4 AND 5 year olds can only be counted as an over five on the days they attend a normal school day. During school holidays, training days, snow days/staff strikes or any other day the child does not attend a normal school day they revert to a younger child again for the purposes of child ratios. And this will continue throughout the school year until 31 August.

Absolutely ridiculous IMO, Ofsted have said its still at consulation stage and subject to change. So please do contact Ofsted and make your views known.

www.ofsted.gov.uk/portal/site/Internet/menuitem.ecb0bb2233bb2aee628a0d8308c08a0c/?vgnextoid=1cfc8587 fd24a010VgnVCM1000008192a8c0RCRD

This will make it really difficult for childminders to offer care for reception class children. We can't afford to hold open both an under fives and older fives place with just one fee. And parents can't be expected to pay for 2 places for one child. So we'll all need variations to cover each holiday period!

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Shoshe · 21/05/2008 19:22

We wre told at a meeting on Monday that they would be counted as 5 during the holidays! It was Surestart that told us, it was a question asked at the meeting.

southernbelle77 · 21/05/2008 19:21

That is ridiculous. That means I will need a variation during all the holidays from September then as my dd will be going to school full time, but I am due to give birth at christmas so will be over my ratios just with the existing children I mind!

Each time I read another thing about EYFS it gets more complicated and awkward.

Is anyone going to be able to childmind normally when it all comes in? I have not yet heard a positive comment about the thing.

looneytune · 21/05/2008 19:17

FFS, that's BONKERS!!!

Off to look now, thanks for highlighting that!!!

ayla99 · 21/05/2008 19:12

The statutory framework as revised 19 May 08 can be downloaded from here:
(pdf link in middle column just above picture)

www.standards.dcsf.gov.uk/eyfs/site/requirements/index.htm

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