Should parents pay nanny's for the nanny to take them out?

She’s taking the piss. At the same time, I would expect you to take the kids out on warmer days to free places like the park or beach if you’re near one since you’re being paid. I would supply money for ice creams etc or make a packed lunch for you all.

I would be staying local and free then. She should wholeheartedly be supplying you with funds for discretionary expenses when you take the children out- ice cream, transport, snack etc.

Hmmm - that’s not the same though.

You cannot claim expenses back in the way suggested. If you had to spend £10 on a legitimate expense for work, say petrol do outings and were not reimbursed by employer you would be entitled to deduct that from your taxable pay. If you paid 20%tax you would not have to pay it on this income. You would pay £2 less tax, the tax people would not give you your £10 back.Certainly CF.

'Nobody pays for it, it's a write off!'

Suggest they get a prepay card they load and too up which you use for outings eg hyperjar
They can track exactly what is being spent so transparent
Or you only go to free places like parks

Just for clarity you don’t get your expenses back on a tax return. You can deduct from your taxable income but that’s not the same as getting the whole amount back. If you earn £100 and paid 20% tax (just as a crude example) you would pay £20 tax. If you spent £10 on an outing and that was tax deductible you would pay tax on £100-£10 so on £90 which would be £18. So you would get £2 “back” But not the £10 you spent. This idea that tax deductible expenses are free is bollocks. But anyway as a Nanny you aren’t self-employed usually plus I don’t know if these would be tax deductible expenses if you were. In short they are talking bollocks and all the Nannies I know would have full child outing costs plus their own expenses paid by the parents!!

Yes they should be paying all out of pocket expenses and mileage.

The woman is deluded if she thinks the government is going to pay for her kids to go bowling. Hypothetically if you were crazy to do what she says. Say a day trip cost £100. If you put that as a business expense. (Which you def should not). Then you would only not pay tax and NI on that £100. So the day would cost you around £75.00 out of your own bloody pocket. OP I don’t think I could work for someone so cheeky. Our childminder would have took the kids somewhere free like the park.

Life is too short to spend it working for CFs, OP. Start looking for another job and in the meantime take the kids on free trips only.

Jesus!

My friend is a nanny. She has a credit card, as a secondary holder. She used this to pay for everything for her and the children when she takes them out, entrance, food, drinks etc, if the parents ask her to buy school shoes or equipment, a bit of pocket money for the children to spend on a day out.

that seems the easiest way to do things.

Claimed it back from who??

Yes, parents should pay upfront. However, I think there should be a conversation about how much the nanny is allowed to spend, because we don’t know how tight the parents budget is. Zoos. Theme parks, bowling etc can be expensive.

No, this is very odd. She can set a budget or ask you to do very cheap things like go to the park. But she can’t require you to pay for expensive trips and not get the expenses from her (paid back promptly or as a kitty). She is BVU.

If they can’t afford it then their kids won’t do those things. Just like anyone else. You should never be out of pocket for anything.

my friend had a nanny and gave them a weekly allowance to spend on bowling or a cafe visit or whatever. And paid mileage as the nanny had a car.

They pay all costs including your entrance into any of these things.

They sound awful.

Yes they should absolutely not be doing it later on taxes - their problem not yours.

We employed a nanny and asked her if she would like to claim them as expenses or would prefer us to give her money and she gave us back the change. She was happy to put together what we owed her and we transferred the money to her. We also paid her mileage if she took them somewhere in the car.

You are absolutely right. You shouldn’t be funding their children’s entertainment .

We also paid for the kids meals (if they were out for the day and also her meal too as she had no choice but to eat lunch out with them. Plus ice creams etc. We agreed a budget or activities over half term so we had full knowledge of what was being spent.

She was a wonderful nanny. Our kids loved her dearly and still miss her.

That’s outrageous. Don’t take them anywhere else. You shouldn’t be paying anything at all for someone else’s children when you are a nanny.

they are taking advantage of you.

I nannied years ago and was a 2nd holder on a credit card so could pay for trips with that, plus had a purse with £20 cash in that got topped up weekly in case where I went didn’t take card! I could also fill my car with petrol whenever I needed to and put it on their account (village garage).

The parents never questioned what I had spent or what I did unless there was an unusual payment go on there (like a log burner company as they were running a pumpkin patch one year)

That seems odd but maybe she just doesn't have the budget for it plus if she's potentially paying for cinema tickets for you plus two kids it will be expensive. Just take them to the park, museums, walks...

This is madness. Of course they give you up front cash for all kids food, travel, leisure and yours while in your care