Childminder's dog has bitten DD

Does it make a difference? A three year old should not be left to be in a position to be unattended with a dog, especially when the person is being trusted and paid to look after them.

Well now you've explained the small dog mentality thanks confirmed exactly what I thought. And obviously nothing happens outside of the UK I gather lol. I've seen a small dog take someone by the throat so I wouldn't call it ridiculous but you're obviously small minded and not worth anymore of my energy.

I don’t think, if I were you ,I could trust this particular child minder again .
I would be looking for another placement if I were you ..
I love dogs , have my own dog but interaction between children and dogs need to be closely supervised.
There is also a big difference between an overexcited dog nipping in play / excitement , a warning nip , and an aggressive bite .
Most dogs give a warning growl before a nip or bite and this was obviously not noticed ?
I don’t blame the dog , I do think the child minder was to blame for not separating the dog from the children if she could not closely supervise .
Children need to learn how to behave appropriately around dogs too , no teasing , no pulling at them

You need to find out what triggered this action. Yes it’s awful but what was the background.

It might have already been asked but I’m presuming this has been reported to ofsted by the childminder?

Whatever the reason this happened the CM had a duty of care and she wasn’t supervising the child sufficiently to ensure it didn’t happen. The OP said the CM said her child ran into a room startled the dog and it bit her in the face. This screams insufficient supervision of dog and child.
If for example she was on the loo and couldn’t supervise the child she needed to ensure dog and child were not in position where the dog felt a need to bite the child. Personally I’m not a fan of stair gates to separate dogs from children little hands can easily get through the bars. The dog should be behind a shut door that the child is unable to open.

I do find it bizarre that some people are so caught up in the drama and self-righteous indignation that they are prepared to destroy someone's livelihood without actually knowing what happened.
The OP gave no context in her original post, yet there you are, pitchfork out, ready to destroy someone.
I'm sure you think you are so,so right, but really ...?

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A dog bite does not automatically mean the dog is pts. There is not enough information regarding the incident here.

Someone up thread said she was fed up with people saying big digs are more dangerous than small dogs I was responding to this.
I 100% agree the fault does not lie with the dog or the child or the parents the fault lies firmly at the door of the CM.

Its a child!.. you can't blame a child who is at their childminders! It's a business and they shouldn't have a dog around the child

Because it’s easier for people to say that, easier to say the dog is dangerous and needs to be killed. It’s easier for them to vilify the childminder and want to destroy them. Doing that is far easier than hearing anything else because people are just ignorant, they just don’t care unfortunately. There could be so many reasons this has happened and I’m sure the childminder is absolutely devastated. I know I would be if I owned a dog who had bitten a child. The OP hasn’t said whatsoever what actions the childminder has taken since the incident, the childminder can’t defend themselves.

First reply nails it. And inform the police.

How is this even a question!???!!!!!!! What a stupid question. Of course you have lost trust in them and NO! you shouldnt send your child there again! It also needs to be reported so it never happens again to another child!!!! 😡

Of course you'd teach your children - they live with dogs! It would be pretty bloody stupid not to!

It may be a shock that perhaps the OP's child isn't around dogs anywhere else? My 3 year olds wouldn't have known about dogs because they weren't around any.

I assume the matter of the dog came up when the OP booked the childminder and I am also assuming that she was reassured that the dog would be kept securely away from children. It certainly should have been!

What a nasty, vindictive thing to write. Yes, it’s an awful situation that should never, ever have happened. But you don’t know what action the childminder has taken and to want to ‘destroy some one’s business’ is just appalling. She may be an otherwise brilliant minder who is equally appalled and devastated by what has happened and has taken full responsibility for it.

I am firmly in the belief that there is no such thing as a 'bad' dog just bad management. I've had dogs all my life. My parents bred & showed English Setters. In my time I've had German Pointers, rescued greyhound, a Great Dane & a rescued Mastiff as well as a couple of rescued Shih Tzus - they were the most challenging that I ever had to train!.

Since then I have settled on Cocker Spaniels - lovely friendly family dogs - they enjoy a good walk, love people - often bringing a 'present' of a dog toy, shoe or whatever for all visitors. My current dog once grabbed a bra from the laundry basket to greet the postman with. 😂

When my son was young he was taught how to manage the dogs - never to disturb them when sleeping, never to surprise them etc, when very young only allowed to pet dog when I was holding the dog. NEVER in the same room without me or another adult present. However, not difficult as Spaniels famously greedy & bonded with owner/mummy & would rather be with them in the kitchen (where there may be food available) or following the 'food provider' around the house just in case food will appear LOL! I'm not able to go to the loo without dog following me & trying to get onto my lap. 😂

I am always aware that dogs are not humans & need to be very carefully supervised & managed when with young children. When young, my grandchildren were taught not to pet the dog without an adult holding the dog. It doesn't matter how friendly the dog is (all my dogs were/are very calm & friendly) you can't account for the child moving suddenly, grabbing an ear or doing something that may frighten the dog & cause them to snap.

Having said that, I wouldn't have put my child into a care setting where there was a dog - too risky as you don't know how the dog's owner is managing the contact.

Should she have been in that room? If the childminder is allowing her dog loose around the children, I would be angry as its not appropriate in a childcare setting.

If the dog was shut away in another room and kids told to stay out of there but my child ignored the instructions then I wouldn't really feel I could complain much as my child should do as they are told. Although tbf, where was the childminder? Why were the kids unsupervised for long enough that they could go into an area they shouldn't be in? Did she nip to the loo or was she pissing about on her phone ignoring them?

Doesn't really matter if the toddler 'did something' to the dog though, the child should still be able to go to childcare without being bitten.

I’ve heard this sort of thing before, whilst I agree the dog should be away from the children, how do you all know that something nasty wasn’t done to the dog? At the end of the day they are living breathing creatures and have to put up with a lot from us humans, be it big or small ones. I always wonder why it’s always the dogs fault, she hasn’t told us all the circumstances

But this is just taking the whole thread off track! It’s not an argument about big dogs and little dogs but all dogs can bite and cause damage. The face is the CM should not have a dog anywhere near her charges. Big or small.

Jesus, it’s not the dogs fault, especially if it’s elderly and been taken by surprise. Absolutely no excuse on the part of the childminder. We had an injured dog and had baby gates everywhere until she was at least 7 or 8.
Lots of knee jerk ignorance on here. If an animal is in pain its instinct is to protect itself.

I couldn’t agree more and have already stated thus up thread but this idea that small dogs are as dangerous if not more dangerous than a large dog is obviously ridiculous. It’s no coincidence that XL bullies (the clue is in the name) are responsible for more deaths than other dog breeds.

A small dog could easily cause a lot of damage to a 3 year old child by taking a chunk out of her face. No dog should be left unsupervised with a child.

Call the police, get the dog put down and the childminder prosecuted. Report them to the local authority and get them struck off. They should not be caring for children, totally unsuitable environment.