Childminder's dog has bitten DD

She wont, shes being a keyboard warrior.

What an evil thing to do

Of a person allows an aggressive dog to be feeling to bite someone, it's a 5 year prison sentence and a £2000 fine.

You need to report it OP and find another childminder where she can be safe.

Of course it is. You are being gaslit. This horrible thing happened because dog was startled. Only noone saw. So that is just the narrative I want to believe and want you to believe. It is actually the truth.

Fuck that. She has no clue what happened. She was not watching and she left your precious child alone with an animal which should never have been in proximity. An animal which then bit your child's face.

You cannot realgo overboard in this situation. It is entirely appropriate to lose your shit.

Exactly this.

I think some of the responses are extreme. It's not necessarily a dangerous dog that needs to be pts, we don't know what happened. The issue was that the childminder allowed it to happened. I'd say that makes her the dangerous one!

But yes, needs reporting to ensure it does not happen again (I do not know, maybe someone on here can advise, but I would assume the dog is supposed to be segregated from the children in her care?)

Personally I love animals, have our own, but I don't leave my kids anywhere that has dogs without me because I know it only takes a second. When my mum has my kids the dogs go my sisters.

I think you are right to feel the trust is gone.

I hope your little girl is okay and it was minor and healing quickly.

I dont think owning a dog is compatible with being a childminder

remove child from
setting

If the dog didn’t do significant damage and it is out of character then pts is unfair. But it shouldn’t be near children and the owner should consider rehoming.

Has the OP even asked the childminder what extra protections she has put in place?

You are sounding utterly unhinged. At three years old, the tiny child is not responsible for anything. They are in the care of an adult who is responsible for them.

Are you so obsessed with dogs that you want to blame a toddler for a dog bite? Utterly bizarre.

Well that's called 'natural selection' as far as I'm concerned. A wild animal may attack when threatened or provoked; a domesticated one has to learn they can't do that. That learning needs to happen before they are around children or are large enough to cause serious damage.

An animal cannot be 'secured away' and manage to bite a child; that's nonsensical. It is secure or it's not.

That said, breaking a dog's ribs is beyond 'provoking' so I agree that was a reasonable response to that event.

My toddler dd was grazed on the face by a small dog in a similar way. He snapped at another dog and accidentally caught her with a tooth, he was snapping, not biting, and it wasn’t intended for her.
My friend had a rescue dog who would snap at your hand if you touched her when she was sleeping. She had been very badly treated by her previous owner, (dog was in the local paper as a severe cruelty case). We knew to always talk to her if she was asleep to wake her up, before trying to touch her. So there are scenarios where the dog is either snapping from pain or fright , as a warning. The childminder should have crated her dog or locked the door.

@LandSharksAnonymous The childminder is to blame. You cannot expect a three year old to be reliable around dogs enough to never do anything the dog wouldn’t like. Even adults cannot be trusted to do things dogs don’t like and can’t read dog body language. Even the most chilled out dog could be unpredictable if they are in pain. This was an old dog and could very well be the case. They should have been separated, full stop.

No, she isn't. Don't be daft about a 3-year-old not being taught about dogs. The whole blame is on the childminder alone.

Jesus christ, some people.

Do not send your child back. This person needs to be removed from the Childminders Register. Did she seek medical advice for your child? You must report this I identify to both the registering body and the police.

What does your child want are they afraid of the dog if not why not do they like and trust the childminder things happen but your child's happiness matters did your child pull the dogs tail or anything

Wow unbelievable comment. You must be a troll or something. And if your not you're part of the problem we have so many out of control dogs in this country. The childminder is legally 100% responsible for her animal as are all animal owners, especially if they're running a business looking after children. It is legally completely her responsibility. You think the police are going to take into account what a 3 year old did? Nope. Ridiculous thing to say to OP.

@Jugglingitall85 Ignore comments like this. What happened was extremely serious also in the eyes of the law for many reasons. It could have been much worse. The number of owners whose dogs kill and then they say they've never done anything harmful before... The childminder is responsible for all risks in her house and the child cannot be blamed. It's like saying well the child burnt herself on an iron that was on... Oh but she should have known not to touch an iron 🙄

I’m not insane because I’ve never once said I’d forgive a small dog for biting an 8yr old in the face.

This is bollocks!! Op doesn't have responsibility for this incident.

The childminder should not have a dog and a child in her care unsupervised full stop. It's negligence.

We don't have any dogs in our household (as many children don't have) so my children wouldn't at 3yrs old know how to behave with a dog.
As a childminder she should not expect to have dog trained 3 year olds....she should base her plans and safety measures on worse case scenario and expect and assume the children do not know how to behave with dogs.

Sorry, a young child should never be left unsupervised with a dog, end of. For this to be possible in a childminding situation is negligent and could have been so much worse. I would report to Ofsted and make a claim on her public liability insurance for the harm to your child and distress to you.

Gosh you’re hostile! Actually I’m far from small minded. Actually as an HCP who often sees dig bites I’d love to see some global figures detailing the number of people who had there carotid artery (interior or exterior although I guess in the case of a small dog exterior is more likely) bitten by small dog and then bled to death.

I didn't say that a small dog was more dangerous then a large dog. I said all dogs should not be underestimated and to state as you did earlier that you would forgive a small dog for biting an 8 yr old in the face is absolutely insane.

I think it does. I hadn't realised that OP's DD was 3 when I wrote that, honestly.
Was imagining a rather older child teasing the dog.

Report it to Ofsted. They can suspend or even cancel the childminder if there is a risk to children.

I’m not convinced the dog needs to be PTS after this episode. Many years ago a friend who owned horses failed to supervise her 5 yr old child properly the child peddled his scooter into her horse’s back legs and got kicked in the head causing a large brain haemorrhage. It wasn’t the horses fault or the child’s the fault lay with the parent, the horse was frightened and it reacted as frightened horses do you cannot remove that natural instinct however many carrots you feed your horse. No one suggested putting the horse to sleep. It’s the same with the dog it was apparently startled and reacted. It was doing what a startled dog in that situation can do.

do you know if the CM has done an incident report/form? I vaguely remember things like this have to be reported to Ofsted and a report available for future customers.

I looked round a CM’s and then when I looked up their Ofsted reports there was a child injured in their care and it really put me off as the report was clear that they weren’t appropriately supervised. While I know accidents can happen it put them on the ‘no’ pile and I think other parents should have all the info to make an informed choice with your CM in future