Can’t afford the additional charges at nursery for my 3 year old

@Hoover2025 but will your child be at the school nursery the same hours as his current one.
School nurseries the sessions are usually only 3 hours long. A morning session and an afternoon session. Some children might go "full time" ie the regular school day but it means they might end up doing the same planned activities twice. Maybe it isn't different to what children do at private nursery.
I really don't know anymore....I've totally confused myself 😂
@Lilacbluewaters is the school a Local Authority school or an Academy School?
If it's LA I really can't see how they can make the charges compulsory. It just doesn't seem right at all.

I dunno. Will you ?

You need to query this with them then. They can't charge you for nappies if he isn't using them - nor wipes if the wipes are only used for those wearing nappies

@PinkDaffodil2 that's what I mean about the confusing way we use "Nursery" for different things.
To me a "childcare" nursery is one where children are there all day - from as early as 7 or 8am until as late as 6 or 7pm (not all children there all day but that's the hours they open.
They have nap time. They have dedicated changing areas. They have dedicated meal times. They have key workers not teachers. They don't have uniforms.
A school nursery is a classroom within a school. Children go for 3 hours. They are taught by a teacher.
They often wear the school uniform or a basic version if it. They do "school" stuff like play in the playground with the Reception class or go to assembly.
That is very different environments to me.
Maybe I am completely wrong but all the school nurseries I know of are like how I described 🙂

I dont know. Im moving my son in Sept from private nursery daycare or whatever you want to call it; to a primary school ‘Nursery’ year group (the year before reception class so c. 3.5 years old)

As far as I can tell there is no difference in provision. Both using EYFS, both focused on play, free flow of indoors/ out and freedom to choices in activities. Both have uniforms (one optional and school one is mandatory).

So I think it depends on the nursery/school. They aren’t necessarily different.

Say you will send in nappies, wipes and snacks and don't need an app.

Plenty of school nurseries run school hours and absolutely are childcare. Ours takes kids from 3 years old, and they can go to the same breakfast / after school club as KS1, plus the school holiday clubs. I can't wait until DS is 3 and at the same place as his sister.
Why is private nursery for a 3 year old 'childcare' bur school nursery 'education'? Apologies for the continued detailing of the thread - I've treated them fairly interchangeably.

I would provide my own wipes and see if its an option to bring in a snack. As for a breakdown of the £80 that seems a lot. When mine were at nursery it was something per term to cover snacks and they didn't let children be in nappies just the occasional pull up or have in underwear and they could help train them.

@crumblingschools a school nursery to me personally isn't childcare. It's pre-school education.
This is the problem in England - using the same word for childcare for babies and for a educational class within a primary school.
Perhaps we should use "daycare" and "pre-school" to show they are different.

@crumblingschools I think some schools now taking children from 9 months is down to the new 30 hours for working parents scheme.
There needs to be more facilities for that to happen and in some parts of the country schools have less pupils in recent years so they have the space to have a childcare setting.

@Needmorelego I get that the OP might not be seeing it as childcare but your posts seem to suggest that no-one should use a school nursery as childcare

@crumblingschools but it sounds like the OP wasn't thinking of it as childcare. That's why she is confused why she is being asked to pay.

@Needmorelego why shouldn't they use it as childcare? Many families round here send their children for longer hours and pay the extra over the funded amount. Childcare nurseries have to follow the same curriculum as school nurseries, so both are educational. Why do 2 year olds go to school nurseries? Why are the local schools round here changing the admissions criteria to take on 9 month olds?

@crumblingschools my daughter's nursery class was very much part of the school.
They wore uniform (polos and sweatshirts), had their own little bookbags and sometimes joined the Reception class for special activities/playtime and on really special occasions joined in with the whole school assembly.
Basic LA primary school.
So definitely not a "childcare" setting.

@crumblingschools they shouldn't be used as childcare though. It's 15 hours (3 hours a day term time only) of pre-school education within a school setting.
It's education....not childcare.
Parents can choose to use their 15 hours within a childcare style nursery though.
Although I know there has been changes recently and more childcare style nurseries are on the same sites as a school.

Surely you were informed of this before you took your place? My understanding is technically they have to offer the funded hours only (which may mean bringing in your own snack, nappies, wipes etc for them). Many charge extra as they can afford to stay open otherwise but I believe you can request legally just the funded hours only and they have to give you that option.

@Needmorelego I am slightly confused by your assertion that school nurseries are not used as childcare, and there won't be nappies etc

@crumblingschools I know it isn't.
The OPs child should be in a "Nursery Class" going by his age. Next year he will be in Reception.
I've lost my somewhere along this thread but I think it was to do with the difference between daycare nursery and school nursery.

Reception isn't nursery @Needmorelego

@crumblingschools but the OP says her son is just doing the 15 hours.
So she shouldn't be paying anything.

@LadySnoresMuchly also from the government website...

Many school nurseries are used as childcare, a number of parents pay for additional hours. I was speaking to someone involved with local school, they have 5 children in YR in nappies, so nappies in school nursery very common. Many school nurseries take 2yo. Local ones are looking at taking on 9 month olds, so very much childcare.

@LadySnoresMuchly huh ? Almost all primary schools call the 4 - 5 year old class Reception.
You can buy workbooks like the ones published by CGP etc that the Year group is called Reception.
My point was all to do with what type of "nursery" the OPs child is in (which she hasn't answered).
If it's a Nursery Class as part of a primary school then it's part of the school and she shouldn't be charged anything for it.
I did say I was wrong about SEN. It's special circumstances (such as SEN or low income) as it clearly says in the government website.

I'm not sure what your point is here.

I was responding to you saying that children in a school nursery should not be in nappies.

My point was that there are now two year olds in school nurseries and these two year olds are more likely to be in nappies than the three year olds.

You then told me that two year olds in school nurseries are SEN which is not the case.

I haven't heard EYFS foundation stage called reception for over a decade.