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Nanny wants husband to occasionally join for days out

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tokajlover · 14/08/2024 20:16

We are just about to start employing a nanny for the first time for our DD (2). She hasn’t started yet but we had the first settling in session today, and while we have had 0 reservations about her before this, she mentioned today almost as a one-off comment that she would like us to meet her husband at some point too, as he might sometimes, rarely, join them for day outs or similar.

I didn’t say anything in the moment but I am not feeling ok with this: we have never had a nanny before and I am due to start work in less than a month, and this is the first time she has mentioned this, despite having a very lenghty interview, where we made it clear one of the key reasons we didn’t go with a childminder is that we knew, because as a SAHM for the past two years, I have observed this, they were visiting friends during working hours with the kids, and we thought this was both a safeguarding issue and inappropriate given they were working. She only mentioned this now, during our settling in session, and to be honest I was quite taken aback in the moment. Surely this is not standard practice?

My question is how do I broach this with her, and clarify what she meant, and make it clear we are not comfortable with this. And how do I trust this doesn’t happen going forward without my knowledge? Surely her husband won’t be DBS checked, he won’t have liability insurance, we didn’t hire him to look after our daughter, as well as the fact you wouldn’t expect to meet up with your husband during working hours?

I am not sure if this is something that can happen in certain settings and people are okay with it under certain circumstances and I am the unreasonable one, so am looking for views on that, as well as any advice on how to handle this going forward. I worry she might think us a bit not knowledgeable and naive as we haven’t had a nanny before.

Thank you!

EDIT: Typo in title, nanny wants husband to occassionaly join them for days out

OP posts:
Greigeisthelatestbeige · 16/08/2024 16:23

Based on your update, she is backtracking.

Personally I think you know what she said. Trust your instinct.

tokajlover · 16/08/2024 16:17

I got some really helpful replies here for which I am very thankful, can’t reply to everyone as still looking full-time after my daughter at the
moment and having a crazy couple of days, but thought I’d update.

My DH called her today to clarify, and according to the nanny, she said that’s not what she meant and that she only wanted us to meet him in case he ever picks her up, drops something she’d forgotten or as we live in a smaller town, they bump into him in town etc. She said she would never even take her to any activity, including with other nannies without asking for permission. Apparently she was very strong about it.

I do remember what she said though, and if she meant the above it’s definitely not what came out to be honest. Her exact words were that it hasn’t happened often, but sometimes her husband joined her and the kid(s) in her care for a day out if he was around, and she wanted us to meet him in case that happened. That to me sounds different to what she said above.

My DH is reassured by this, I am in two minds. Would appreciate any thoughts and advice, but realis I have to make up my mind quite sharply about whether I trust her or not.

I am sure I will be asked why I didn’t speak to her myself, but there is a good reason for that, we are trying to do everything by the book and we agreed that my DH should be her line manager, which he is, as he wanted to be the one to have the “difficult conversations” if they ever arose so I wouldn’t deal with the added stress of this and a new job.

OP posts:
DisabledDemon · 16/08/2024 16:13

No, no and a world of no. This is highly inappropriate. I'd be terminating the contract and be going to an agency. It was not a proper thing to ask. It would be like me asking if I could bring my husband along when I'm teaching.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 16/08/2024 13:46

@Greategret
By the way, beware the phrase, "She was very good with the children". In my experience this was code for coming home to a house in complete disarray.

It's not mutually exclusive though. Same as some parents who keep a tidy home and some who don't.

gardenmusic · 16/08/2024 13:04

No, absolutely not. It makes your child an irritating add on to Nanny and husband's day out!
You are paying for a service, and no, she cannot bring another person along - it alters the whole vibe. It's like going on holiday with your friend and she wants to bring her husband along!
'Don't mind the man standing behind my till/desk, it's just my husband...'
It's a job, not a favour she's doing you.
Now that you know she has this in mind, will you trust her?

Justthistime1234 · 16/08/2024 12:52

Sorry haven’t RTFT but just a quick one - I am always on the alert for the “almost off the cuff” points - they are often the most important part of the entire discussion and are thrown in to stop that being recognised. I’ve done it myself (often) on negotiations on transactions and sometimes it’s spotted, sometimes not. She likely knows it’s very odd hence the way it was said, and also if it was genuinely mentioned as if it were fine (which everyone including she knows isn’t the case) then there may be something going on, eg he’s sick, she has other things she needs to do eg study, baking cakes for sale on the side - who knows! - I would spend all my energy understanding exactly what this means in terms of why, when, where, what is she/he doing, and basically why on earth this is even being discussed with you. X

MindfulBear · 16/08/2024 12:32

Just tell the nanny this makes you
Uncomfortable and in any case you don't think there will be time for her to meet up with her partner given the play dates and toddler classes you are expecting her to be involved in with your charges - with other Nannies.
obviously it is something that can be discussed down the road but not right now.

And then leave it at that and see if she really does fit your family.

Katrinawaves · 16/08/2024 12:04

It’s entirely your choice whether to allow this but it’s not as unusual as some people are suggesting for a family to allow interaction with a nanny’s family.

We’ve got 3 children with 10 year age gap between oldest and youngest and have had 4 nannies over that period.

Nanny 1 with us for 10 years. From a different culture and her parents used to invite our oldest 2 to join them for a celebration meal once a year (in a restaurant). This nanny was married and when she had been working for us for a few years, we were able to go away overnight on a couple of occasions with her and her husband looking after the kids for us.

Nanny 2 and 3 were shorter term and we had no contact with their family

Last nanny was with us for 4 years and introduced us to her parents quite early on - both worked in childcare settings. When the nanny took her holiday or was ill, one of her parents would provide cover for her (with our knowledge and consent) which worked really well for us.

ABirdsEyeView · 16/08/2024 11:32

I think she's probably taking a view that you trust her with your child and therefore trust her judgement in all areas regarding your child's care.
I wouldn't like it or agree to it either. I would say no, but it does sour the relationship and of course, you would have to trust that she's respecting your decision and not doing it anyway .

OrangeJeans · 16/08/2024 11:17

I wouldn't employ her. I'd want a nanny with good judgement.

LadeOde · 16/08/2024 11:07

Find another nanny sharpish and do not hire her for even 1 day.

Gwenhwyfar · 16/08/2024 11:05

Anonym00se · 14/08/2024 20:22

If she worked in an office she wouldn’t take her husband into work with her. It sounds a bit weird.

People often do meet their spouses and partners for lunch. I've also known people take their spouse on business trips (at own cost of course). Also, office work is 7-8 hours and nannying hours are often longer.

hushabybaby · 16/08/2024 10:59

I used to be a nanny before I had my own children. I lived 4 houses down from my charges, I would never ever dream of letting my boyfriend joining us for the day! Or anyone who wasn't a nanny.
After about 4 years of working for them, they'd met my boyfriend twice, forgotten keys and mobile phone.

I personally would never feel comfortable hiring someone who said this either, you'd never feel comfortable ever.

Existingbudhet · 16/08/2024 10:43

stingray9 · 14/08/2024 22:29

I don't know your full situation but I would rather look after my child than pay a nanny.
I don't get a good feeling about this situation.

What a nasty reply

Oh and please don't fill the thread quoting the full OP

NearlySeptember · 16/08/2024 10:41

Good god no! Totally agree with you and even if you took her on telling her no husband. Could you ever trust her?

Nope nope nope.

She was manipulative and sly, telling you a month before she starts.

Westfacing · 16/08/2024 10:35

I can't think why she needs to meet her husband during the working day. He's retired you say and so probably bored and looking for something to do, but that's not your problem.

They'd end up spending the time doing things that interest them, rather than say soft play, or meet-ups with other nannies.

tempname1234 · 16/08/2024 10:33

Nannies will socialise with people while they’re caring for your child. You would hope so. Such as taking your child to play groups, maybe activities such a a tumble tots if music group. Also playing in the park. It is great for them to make friends with other Nannie’s in your area and planned dates

Socialising is an important part of your child’s development

that being said, planning days out with her husband is not the same thing. You’re within reasonableness to say that this makes you uncomfortable and you’d be concerned her ducts would not be in your child and you’d prefer that this does not happen while she is taking care of your child.

Mayana1 · 16/08/2024 10:25

Kornvallmo · 14/08/2024 21:01

See, this is why people pay top dollar for Norland nannies, never having to worry about WTF things like this.
As you were.

Those are like military, aren't they? But only very wealthy can afford them.

Donsyb · 16/08/2024 10:21

My brothers ex was a nanny. He sometimes joined them for days out (with the parents permission). I don’t know how it came about - I assume he had met the parents before the kids and they liked him. His ex had been their nanny for a while before he was on the scene though. He loves kids and the kids loved him so it worked out well.

Judecb · 16/08/2024 10:18

Presumably she has formal DBS check has he?

Peonies12 · 16/08/2024 10:10

Modompodom · 16/08/2024 09:10

As a former nanny, I did used to meet up with other nannies and their charges, go to each others places of work for lunch, play dates, visits to the park. I also used to accompany mycharges to various activities. All this would be quite normal, but I can't recall any of my nanny friends including a partner in any of the daily activities.

This seems fine as those nannies would be vetted, and there's a clear benefit as the kids can play together etc. Especially as OP's child isn't going to a nursery.

Peonies12 · 16/08/2024 10:09

That's definitely weird. I worked as a live in au pair for a while, in an annex to their house, and my partner was allowed to visit at the weekend - I usually didn't work weekends, occasionally I did look after the kids on a weekend evening and he'd be there, but they'd be asleep. Different situation though!

OVienna · 16/08/2024 10:05

We used nannies, nurseries, and au pairs over the years.

If your daughter is two and it's not that many hours, honestly you will have a lot less aggro going down the nursery route. Our lives were by far the most stable when this was our main form of childcare but we did have good options nearby in our area.

Our last nanny was fantastic in terms of caring for the children and keeping the house in order but even pulled stunts like ringing me at work to tell me her husband had been let go and she needed additional hours. When I said that I'd be happy to help her find some through friends, etc she goes: No, I'm planning to rely on my existing employers (as in us and the family in the share.) She was basically calling to inform me what she needed from us. I had to explain that no, that wouldn't be possible, we had to stick to our current arrangement. OMG!

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 16/08/2024 09:45

Nope, not OK!

Modompodom · 16/08/2024 09:10

As a former nanny, I did used to meet up with other nannies and their charges, go to each others places of work for lunch, play dates, visits to the park. I also used to accompany mycharges to various activities. All this would be quite normal, but I can't recall any of my nanny friends including a partner in any of the daily activities.