Childcare fees as of September

staringatthedoor · 2024-06-26T12:06:18+00:00

Just curious as to what people will be paying from September with 15 funded hours added? Haven't had the invoice yet so unsure but my bad maths have said about £500 ish before tax free discount. That's 2 full days 8-18:00. In the south east. Nappies/wipes etc not included but meals & snacks are.

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TooLateForRoses · 28/06/2024 06:33

Are you claiming the tax free childcare?

Stressedoutforever · 28/06/2024 06:29

Mine is £320 ish after tax free for 2 days a week

tealandteal · 27/06/2024 06:23

Currently we pay £800+ a month for 4 days at nursery. In September tge hours will kick in and DS will start preschool so will be £41 a week. Nursery charge for lunch and a consumable fee on top of the funded hours (£10 a day plus £4 for lunch) so we would only save around £200 if he was at nursery when the hours kick in.

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staringatthedoor · 27/06/2024 06:11

Blondeshavemorefun · 26/06/2024 14:24

Obv that's not with funded hours - which is around £4/5ph is that right. So will need to top up each hour

Yes they have said £3.50 an hour for those on funded hours.

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staringatthedoor · 27/06/2024 06:08

For those that asked its standard rate is £90 a day. Funded hours 'fee' is 3.50 an hour.
Can stretch the hours over the year so works out at 11 a week. So currently it's just over 700 a month before discount. When my eldest had 30 hours there a few years ago I still payed 260.

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jannier · 26/06/2024 22:18

Fishcake15 · 26/06/2024 18:17

Nope! I absolutely wasn't saying that at all, someone else did. What I was saying was that child minders are generally cheaper than Nurseries and that the South get ripped off because everything costs less in the North. My Nursery is cheaper up here than a Childminder is down South. That's literally all I said 😂

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But your housing and commercial premises are lower so rates have to be higher down south to cover it. I could buy a 5/6 bed detached with land if I sold my pokey 3 bed in a shitty area and moved north

jannier · 26/06/2024 22:12

Fishcake15 · 26/06/2024 18:22

£60 is too much for a childminder compared to what they get at Nursery IMO but I'm not paying you so each to their own.

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What do you feel is missing in a cm from a nursery?

autienotnaughty · 26/06/2024 20:43

PuttingDownRoots · 26/06/2024 13:38

@Fishcake15 a nursery in the SE could well be over £100 PER DAY.

£65:for a childminder was normal in Yorkshire 10 years ago!

I was a childminder in Yorkshire until ten years ago. I charged £40 a day

cmforfun · 26/06/2024 18:32

@Fishcake15
So you wouldn't trust us if we charged too little but you're clearly not happy if we charge too much. Sounds like a wind up!

BusyCM · 26/06/2024 18:31

Ariel45 · 26/06/2024 18:26

I assumed OP meant she would be paying £500 per month not per week.

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I think the post is ambiguous.

I assumed the child is attending 20 hours, 15 of which will be funded.

I think £500 is quite a lot for 5 hours per week? Even monthly that's over £100/week.

Ariel45 · 26/06/2024 18:26

BusyCM · 26/06/2024 18:25

Minus the funding the OP is asking about?

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I assumed OP meant she would be paying £500 per month not per week.

BusyCM · 26/06/2024 18:25

Ariel45 · 26/06/2024 18:22

65 x 8 is 520....

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Minus the funding the OP is asking about?

BusyCM · 26/06/2024 18:23

Fishcake15 · 26/06/2024 18:17

Nope! I absolutely wasn't saying that at all, someone else did. What I was saying was that child minders are generally cheaper than Nurseries and that the South get ripped off because everything costs less in the North. My Nursery is cheaper up here than a Childminder is down South. That's literally all I said 😂

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You said if I charged that little, you're not sure you'd trust me 100%.

And then weirdly backtracked and said I was extortionate!

Clearly either on a wind up, or trying to be deliberately insulting.

To clarify, neither of your statements are true. I charge exactly the same as other cms in the area (nurseries are 80-95) and I am indeed very trustworthy.

Fishcake15 · 26/06/2024 18:22

cmforfun · 26/06/2024 18:18

@Fishcake15
I'm a childminder in the north and I charge £60 per day. It's fairly standard here. Nurserys local to me are £55-£80 a day.

£60 is too much for a childminder compared to what they get at Nursery IMO but I'm not paying you so each to their own.

Ariel45 · 26/06/2024 18:22

BusyCM · 26/06/2024 13:32

What? I'm an outstanding grade childminder with 15 years experience. I charge £65 per day which is perfectly in keeping with my area.

Very strange comment if you believe paying double constitutes more trustworthy care.

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65 x 8 is 520....

cmforfun · 26/06/2024 18:18

@Fishcake15
I'm a childminder in the north and I charge £60 per day. It's fairly standard here. Nurserys local to me are £55-£80 a day.

Fishcake15 · 26/06/2024 18:17

jannier · 26/06/2024 17:55

Are you seriously saying price equals quality?
Outstanding 4 times in outer London quality assured, lead practitioner and assessor £65 a day .....and my students work in good rated nurseries charging a lot more.

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Nope! I absolutely wasn't saying that at all, someone else did. What I was saying was that child minders are generally cheaper than Nurseries and that the South get ripped off because everything costs less in the North. My Nursery is cheaper up here than a Childminder is down South. That's literally all I said 😂

jannier · 26/06/2024 17:57

longdistanceclaraclara · 26/06/2024 14:35

I wouldn't pay someone under nmw to care
for my kids!

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Childminders take more than one child.

jannier · 26/06/2024 17:55

Fishcake15 · 26/06/2024 13:20

If you charge that little, I'm not sure I would trust you 100%. Sounds a fair going rate for Nursery.

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Are you seriously saying price equals quality?
Outstanding 4 times in outer London quality assured, lead practitioner and assessor £65 a day .....and my students work in good rated nurseries charging a lot more.

Lunde · 26/06/2024 15:19

Does the nursery allow you to take all of your hours out over 2 days? Some restrict the hours that they accept funding for to sessions such as 9-12 or 12.30-3.30 with you having to pay wraparound fees outside of the sessions.

Also as pp have said, you only get funding for 38 weeks per year so if you stretch it over a full year it only funds 11 hours/week.

questionningmyself · 26/06/2024 15:07

They aren't paid less than NMW 😂 that's up to the individual CM if they only want to care for one child at a time - mine takes 4+ children so actually earns well OVER NMW

BuffaloCauliflower · 26/06/2024 14:52

@longdistanceclaraclara she’s not paid under NMW, she looks after 3-4 children at a time so she’s paid £8x3-4 (the other children pay £8ph) so more like £24-30ph. Childminders aren’t nannies.

BusyCM · 26/06/2024 14:38

longdistanceclaraclara · 26/06/2024 14:35

I wouldn't pay someone under nmw to care
for my kids!

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Do you know how childminders work? We are self employed and look after multiple children in our own home. I make over NMW but not from each individual family.

longdistanceclaraclara · 26/06/2024 14:35

BuffaloCauliflower · 26/06/2024 14:33

I’m south east and my childminder is £7.50ph, so about £67.50 for the days I use. And that’s a 50p ph discount because she’s my friend.

I think the fees for my 1yo will go down about half before tax free childcare, she does 27 hours a week so we‘ll only be paying 12 now. The funding coming in for 1 year olds is way more than for 3 year olds so CM won’t need to charge a top up. She does charge a top up for my 3yos funded hours. We have a term time contract to make it easier with the funding and then I pay full whack for the holiday days she has them.

I wouldn't pay someone under nmw to care
for my kids!

BuffaloCauliflower · 26/06/2024 14:33

I’m south east and my childminder is £7.50ph, so about £67.50 for the days I use. And that’s a 50p ph discount because she’s my friend.

I think the fees for my 1yo will go down about half before tax free childcare, she does 27 hours a week so we‘ll only be paying 12 now. The funding coming in for 1 year olds is way more than for 3 year olds so CM won’t need to charge a top up. She does charge a top up for my 3yos funded hours. We have a term time contract to make it easier with the funding and then I pay full whack for the holiday days she has them.