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Denying Access to My Child

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JurassicAllstar · 25/06/2024 11:15

My Ex and I have childcare arrangements where I have my daughter every other weekend and we share the holidays. I would have my daughter more but distance between us makes that difficult with Schooling.

I have recently got married, my wife and I chose to marry abroad for just close friends and family with no children. My 6 year old was in school at this point so I wasn't going to take her 2 weeks out of school for this with many people she doesn't know, only one of my family members could make it.
So we made the decision to have a smaller event in the UK after that would be more suitable for my daughter, we can make it more special for her then and not have to take her out of school where she would have more family around her.

My Ex (Daughters Mother) has since denied me access to my daughter, she is very angry I didn't take our daughter abroad. On fathers day she sent me a really nasty and abusive text message and I have had more since.
I have explained the reasons and that we have another event but she is having none of it.

Me not taking her abroad and out of education for 2 weeks I did in her best interest, it would have been selfish of me to put her in that situation with people she doesn't know and very little family of our own there, she already has anxiety issues.

Any attempt I make to find some middle ground with my ex just results in more abusive messages that are intended to hurt me but more alarming is that she is upsetting our daughter.

My Ex has a history with social services etc.
I just feel so desperate now, I want to protect my daughter and I don't know where to turn.

OP posts:
WitchyBits · 25/06/2024 13:27

JurassicAllstar · 25/06/2024 11:50

She moved away, I do all the picking up and dropping off. I would have her every weekend but was not allowed.
I get that people may think it is a dick move but this was the only time we could fit in to get married which unfortunately didn't fall on a school holiday.
No-one is more upset than me she couldn't be there, this is why we have chosen to do another ceremony here in the UK that she would be more comfortable at.
I appreciate all the replies

This is total bollocks. You could have got married in the UK and give on honeymoon. You could have TOOK YOUR CHILD WITH YOU 😂🤷🏼‍♀️. Are you shit heart broken, you are one of THOSE dads clearly.

Anon1274 · 25/06/2024 13:26

MissyB1 · 25/06/2024 13:15

You see Im not convinced this mum did really want her 6 year old to go abroad for two weeks. She's moved away and doesn't facilitate the journey for her dd to see their dad, so if he didn't do all the driving home would that child see their dad? He didn't move away. Maybe the wedding is another excuse to distance the child from her other parent?

This kind of works both ways as I’m not convinced that it was her who moved away from the op. He’s already proven himself a liar. If there was even the slightest hint that she would have denied her daughter the holiday, then I’m sure he would have used that in his list of excuses. But neither of us should be making stuff up that the op has not even said. What we do know is that she’s happily given eow and half holidays to the op with no court order, which is obviously how it should be but certainly not how it would have gone if she’d wanted to be awkward. And the op has said himself it was a child free wedding, apparently arranged at the only possible time he could do it, and he wasn’t pulling her out of school for it. It’s completely unfair for you to make something up to blame mum when going by the ops accounts it’s not even true

WitchyBits · 25/06/2024 13:24

Littlefish · 25/06/2024 11:25

Your decision not to have your own child at your wedding was ridiculous and guaranteed to cause hurt.

Your ex wife/partner shouldn't be withholding contact though.

This ^

Can you honestly not see that not inviting your own child to your legal ceremony to create a new family unit could be seen as at best uncaring and inconsiderate and at worst as though she's not even part of your new life?

Jesus fucking Christ.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 25/06/2024 13:21

Unless one of you is from the country where you had the wedding, you and your wife were unreasonable to design the wedding like you did. That was a crappy and selfish decision.

You would be perfectly reasonable to get a Child Arrangement Order to protect your time with dd. It’s pretty shocking that you happily disclose that ex has had SS involvement but you accepted her moving away (you could have legally stopped this ) and happily fuck off for a couple of weeks to get married. If your dd is in danger then you wouldn’t have made that decision. If SS was involved for minor stuff then you would have at least gone for 50/50 custody.

Psychologymam · 25/06/2024 13:18

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:14

They do if their second wife insists on excluding the stepchild.
Or if they can't be bothered to look after their child themselves.

It was a deliberate choice in order to exclude her. And only one he could make because her mother has her nearly all of the time.

MissyB1 · 25/06/2024 13:15

Anon1274 · 25/06/2024 12:29

What do you mean why is everyone fixated on the wedding? Because that’s what the thread is about? Dads nobbed off on a 2 week holiday to get married and left his daughter behind. Mums cut contact to deal with the fallout. And I don’t know what you mean by estrange him even more, he had every other weekend and half of the holidays. Eow is standard, statistically half of the holidays is very much more so, and this was agreed happily with no court order. She’s certainly not estranged him there. Also baring in mind that if mum was trying to alienate the child from dad then she’d be trying to prevent the child from going to the wedding, not going absolutely ballistic that he’s left his child behind and got married without her. I assume he didn’t have his contact weekend either seeing as he was away for a whole 2 weeks

You see Im not convinced this mum did really want her 6 year old to go abroad for two weeks. She's moved away and doesn't facilitate the journey for her dd to see their dad, so if he didn't do all the driving home would that child see their dad? He didn't move away. Maybe the wedding is another excuse to distance the child from her other parent?

BreezyBlueZebra · 25/06/2024 12:59

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:42

I think he just made that up.

Reading back all he says is ‘she has a history with ss’. That could be anything. I got a phone call once after one of my children was admitted to an and e with an injury after what was admittedly a bizarre accident. Luckily said accident had taken place in an adventure park right in front of cctv which had already been pulled and viewed by health and safety due to equipment potentially failing. I guess that means I have a history with ss 🤷🏼‍♀️

IdLikeToBeAFraser · 25/06/2024 12:57

I'm afraid OP that yes, this is on you. it doesn't sound like your ex is behaving very well, but I imagine she's been dealing with the fallout of your dd being devastated that you didn't include her in your wedding. And it's very difficult to convince anyone that a 2 week trip abroad to get married without your child was literally your only option and your DD is very unlikely to be stupid, so she knows perfectly well that this isn't okay.

is your ex possibly hyping it up and making it an even bigger deal? Possibly. But then, do you have form for being a bit selfish and inconsiderate?

BreezyBlueZebra · 25/06/2024 12:52

I can just imagine one of my daughters at 6 years old being told that daddy’s getting married. 100% their first thoughts would be shall I be a bridesmaid or a flower girl? I can’t begin to imagine their heartbreak at being told ‘oh you’re not allowed to come on holiday and to daddy’s wedding because you’re at school’. That’s one hell of a core memory to give your child because she’ll never forget it

BubziOwl · 25/06/2024 12:51

You have implied that you think her mother is an unfit/unsuitable parent and you want to "protect" your daughter

And you've done what exactly about that before now? You've been happy for your daughter to live with someone who you feel she needs protecting from?

And now you're being denied access, you've done what? Sent some texts to your ex saying "pretty please"?

What legal routes have you taken, and if you've not taken them why haven't you?

Goldbar · 25/06/2024 12:47

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:42

So would I.

And I'm not sure that the OP was being entirely truthful about SS involvement.

Indeed. If I actually had a child in a situation that merited SS involvement, there's no way I'd tamely be accepting EOW at my ex's discretion.

Poolstream · 25/06/2024 12:47

JurassicAllstar · 25/06/2024 11:15

My Ex and I have childcare arrangements where I have my daughter every other weekend and we share the holidays. I would have my daughter more but distance between us makes that difficult with Schooling.

I have recently got married, my wife and I chose to marry abroad for just close friends and family with no children. My 6 year old was in school at this point so I wasn't going to take her 2 weeks out of school for this with many people she doesn't know, only one of my family members could make it.
So we made the decision to have a smaller event in the UK after that would be more suitable for my daughter, we can make it more special for her then and not have to take her out of school where she would have more family around her.

My Ex (Daughters Mother) has since denied me access to my daughter, she is very angry I didn't take our daughter abroad. On fathers day she sent me a really nasty and abusive text message and I have had more since.
I have explained the reasons and that we have another event but she is having none of it.

Me not taking her abroad and out of education for 2 weeks I did in her best interest, it would have been selfish of me to put her in that situation with people she doesn't know and very little family of our own there, she already has anxiety issues.

Any attempt I make to find some middle ground with my ex just results in more abusive messages that are intended to hurt me but more alarming is that she is upsetting our daughter.

My Ex has a history with social services etc.
I just feel so desperate now, I want to protect my daughter and I don't know where to turn.

A wedding with no children - your own words.

How would she not know anyone. - you’re her dad, she knows you.

You’ve been called out on you insensitivity and you’re trying to justify it to yourself.

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:43

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:42

I think he just made that up.

Because if he was really worried about his ex wife's parenting, he'd have asked the courts to give him custody.

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:42

Fiddlerdragon · 25/06/2024 12:42

The ops clearly already blamed the mum for everything else. I’m wondering what this ss thing was?

I think he just made that up.

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:42

Fiddlerdragon · 25/06/2024 12:41

Maybe the daily fail will pick it up. I’d love to hear mums side to this.

So would I.

And I'm not sure that the OP was being entirely truthful about SS involvement.

Fiddlerdragon · 25/06/2024 12:42

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 25/06/2024 12:40

My ex used to go on "family holidays" and not take our DC. Clearly they aren't family.

Oddly enough they don't speak to him anymore (they are late teens). According to him my fault.

The ops clearly already blamed the mum for everything else. I’m wondering what this ss thing was?

Fiddlerdragon · 25/06/2024 12:41

Anon1274 · 25/06/2024 12:39

I’m praying it makes trending. Honestly I was full of sympathy when first reading the op, but I think most people usually are when reading it from their point of view, especially when withholding contact is involved. It only takes a minute of thinking about what he’s actually done though to realise how nasty and unnecessary his actions were. Also full of backtracking and excuses as to why he’s done this

Maybe the daily fail will pick it up. I’d love to hear mums side to this.

BecuaseIWantItThatWay · 25/06/2024 12:41

Fiddlerdragon · 25/06/2024 11:24

Btw what was in her best interests would have been to arrange it so she could attend. Not arrange it to make it impossible for her and then give the excuse it was in her best interests because of your inconsiderate decision

This

TheShellBeach · 25/06/2024 12:40

JurassicAllstar · 25/06/2024 12:36

I am back and I take onboard what you all say. Again thanks for your comments. Signing off now, take care.

In other words, "I've been rumbled and I'm not even going to try to defend my shitty behaviour".

Pathetic, OP. Your poor daughter.

You were expecting everyone to agree with you and denigrate your daughter's mother.
Hmm

BellaPoldark · 25/06/2024 12:40

Planning your wedding when your daughter couldn't attend will have been damaging to her, both now and in the long run. I'd question how much you have her best interests in mind, rather than just your own

DumbassHamsterSitterPerson · 25/06/2024 12:40

My ex used to go on "family holidays" and not take our DC. Clearly they aren't family.

Oddly enough they don't speak to him anymore (they are late teens). According to him my fault.

Anon1274 · 25/06/2024 12:39

OhamIreally · 25/06/2024 12:32

Oh I do wish you'd put this in AIBU rather than Childcare OP.

Watching a shit dad get eviscerated - such fun!

I’m praying it makes trending. Honestly I was full of sympathy when first reading the op, but I think most people usually are when reading it from their point of view, especially when withholding contact is involved. It only takes a minute of thinking about what he’s actually done though to realise how nasty and unnecessary his actions were. Also full of backtracking and excuses as to why he’s done this

ColinMyWifeBridgerton · 25/06/2024 12:38

Court order.

TheSquareMile · 25/06/2024 12:37

JurassicAllstar · 25/06/2024 12:36

I am back and I take onboard what you all say. Again thanks for your comments. Signing off now, take care.

@JurassicAllstar

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JurassicAllstar · 25/06/2024 12:36

I am back and I take onboard what you all say. Again thanks for your comments. Signing off now, take care.

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