Would you have an objection to a lesbian aupair?

Urbannixie I know what you mean, and yes in that sense I completely agree.

mananny - i'm not saying prejudiced stupid people shouldn't be educated. i'm saying their views aren't valid. which they obviously aren't, if they need educating out of them!!

male OR female, obviously

No.
I would only have a problem with a promiscuous au-pair (regardless of the said aupair being male of female and homo or hetero) as I associate promiscuity with emotional inmaturity.

I don't think blatant prejudice is any reason to censor a forum though. People who express blatant prejudice need to be educated, no? And if they say something offensive, and everyone else comes down on them, that's a form of education in my mind.

FWIW I have read lots of posts by DottyDot and I agree with everyone, she is lovely and is being remarkable patient. I hope I haven't caused any offense as I'm only trying to add to the discussion.

mananny - i'm sorry but i don't think that being blatanlty prejudiced is a valid opinion.

and and at "lifestyle choice".

Dottydot - you are being wonderfully calm about this.

KerryMum, I feel actually this thread is very interesting. It's showing what a wide range of thoughts there are on a very sensitive subject and I for one have found it valuable as it's made me think about my own attitudes. Nothing wrong with a healthy debate. There's a wide demographic here on MN and it's useful to see what everyone else thinks, even if there are some offensive statements. Everyone has a valid opinion.

mananny - that was my point really - that being gay isn't socially acceptable in some circles and that despite what simplyme says, it isn't to do with what the bible says.

(hugs) geordieminx. It's been hard enough watching some of my family turn away from my uncle, can't imagine how hard it must have been for your mum.

Lots of people do claim tolerance and acceptance, then when it comes to the crunch they just can't bring themselves to practice what they preach.

Sorry Mannany - my post wasnt directed at you. I understand how difficult things must be for your uncle and family as my mum came out at the age of 40.

It was more the comments further down that were verging on homophobia but then followed by the "I know absolutely tons of gays" in the hope that it makes them sound better.

I'm not really putting this very well. This thread is upsetting me, perhaps I should just step away.

Maybe it's because being unmarried has become pretty much completely socially acceptable. Being gay is sadly not at that point just yet.

I don't think it makes it ok that my uncle is suffering from coming out. His life before admitting he was gay was "easy" now he's being true to himself and it's no longer "easy".

It's not fair or right, and he didn't choose it. So that's why I used him as an example of how it's not a lifestyle choice.

blimey.

simplyme - if you can make such outrageous judgements about your friends' lives and yet remain friends with them, you must be a better liar then me.

As for the au pair refusing to work for a gay couple because of her beliefs, why do we never hear of cases of au pairs refusing to work for a heterosexual couple because they are unmarried? it doesn't happen - you say it's the same, but it's not.

WEould you mind a narrow minded bigoted insensitive poster on MN?

You know what annoys me more than anything... well perhaps not anything but.. people saying " I've got lots of gay friends/neighbours/cleaners but.... like that makes everything ok. grrrrrr

Stillstanding - thank you.

DottyDot I don't think being gay is a lifestyle choice. That implies it is always a desirable way to live. I don't believe that is always the case, especially for the person in question. Sometimes a gay person wishes they weren't gay. But it's so deep rooted within them that they have no choice in the matter. Life isn't always easy as a gay because society can still be a harsh place in which to live.

I have an uncle who is experiencing this right now.

I can guarantee he would not say being gay is a lifestyle choice.

Dottydot, I don't blame you for a minute for remaining hot under the collar about this. I have been thinking about this thread a lot myself. Think you are positively restrained ...

Do you really think it's a lifestyle choice though, Simplyme? Do you think if you'd only introduced your gay friends to the right people of the opposite sex, that they would have been straight instead?

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Lifestyle choice???

How utterly bizarre.

Because of my religion I don't believe it is 'right' the same as sex before marriage etc. However I do not go around 'bible bashing' as it is called! I also have many very very good friends who are gay and many good friends how practise casual sex. Since they are my good friends I never saw myself as homophobic in anyway! Not agreeing with someone does not mean that you should be categorized with those who do go out of their way to be hostile and hateful!

at lifestyle choice.

OK, I really shouldn't come back to this thread - as clearly I'm not mature enough but...

I was thinking about it while I was getting up this morning (do I have no life??) and why I got hot under the collar is because the OP's question wasn't 'would you object to your au pair having sex in your house?'. To debate that is all well and good - but this was about sexuality, not sex, and that's where prejudice starts to rear its ugly head.

Like the more than one occasion on this thread where being gay has been described as being a 'lifestyle choice'.

So (and this is meant seriously not to offend or provoke) if there is a choice between respecting someone's religion or being politically correct, which one should be the most protected right?

This is a really interesting debate!