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sibling reduction

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chickenmama · 28/03/2008 21:43

I will be looking after the older brother of a child I mind in the school holidays. Contract hasn't been drawn up yet but in case the parents ask, is a reduction for siblings usual? And how much is the fee usually reduced by? I charge £3.50 for one child, should I make it £7 or £6.50 or maybe £6.75 for two??

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MaureenMLove · 31/03/2008 22:31

Wellll, I sit in on a class, with pre-set work from the teacher, when they can't be there for whatever reason. I have admitted to be happy to cover any lesson. I must be completely insane! I haven't got a clue about anything religious and god help me if I have to do sport! I don't even own anything remotely sporty! I aparently will deserve slightly more respect than a supply teacher!

WallOfSilence · 31/03/2008 22:24

What's a 'Cover Supervisor'?

Is it a bit like a TA who can teach?

hennipenni · 31/03/2008 22:16

Run Mo, run as fast as you can!!

I will admit however that in 4 yrs time I'm looking at doing my teacher training as I was going to train as a teacher before I had my DDs and trained as a nurse instead.

MaureenMLove · 31/03/2008 22:09

A lady of leisure. what a wonderful thought, but no, sadly not. I've got a proper job! I'm going to be a Cover Supervisor in a secondary school from 21st April. I finish minding on Friday this week! Very sad to be doing so, but dd is nearly 13 now and there's really no need for me to work from home. I also feel I've had enough of living in a home surounded by baby stuff! I'm having a new kitchen fitted soon and I'd really rather not have child locks fitted, a highchair stuck in the corner and a stairgate across the door!

WallOfSilence · 31/03/2008 22:00

Are you stopping c/minding then Mo?

What are you going to be doing instead?

MaureenMLove · 31/03/2008 21:58

Mine works from home most of the time and one particular mindee sits on the bottom stair and shouts for him constantly! In fact, her dad said to me yesterday, she's really gonna miss MrMo! Er, excuse me, who am I then, the cats mother!

hennipenni · 31/03/2008 21:48

My mindees always ask if DH is at home and then get upset when I tell them he's at work.

MaureenMLove · 31/03/2008 21:37

Even better then! It must be such a relief to know that you know him and so nice that he got involved with the children. Most of my mindees prefer dh to me half the time, I'm sure of it!

WallOfSilence · 31/03/2008 21:33

Yes! Her dh came in & it turned out I knew him. It was nice to see him play outside with the kids too... he was playing footie with them & her little nephew had come over for a play so it was like a normal day.

MaureenMLove · 31/03/2008 21:14

Excellent news! Did you chat about anything and everything? That's usually what my parents tell me later. That I could talk the hind legs off a donkey!

LilyMunster · 31/03/2008 21:11

i saw thread title and thought were thinking of culling...

WallOfSilence · 31/03/2008 21:10

Well the minder I went to see today was absolutely lovely!

She was great with the kids, not as over the top as another one we went to see (who told ds she loved him within the 1st 20mins)

She had other mindees there, who played with dd & ds.

She has no children of her own but she got all her quals so she could do nursery work & she did for a while until she bought this new house & decided to childmind.

She gives sibling reduction of 50p per hour per 2nd child, she provides meals too.

She's going to take the kids an afternoon this week to see how they get on

KatyMac · 31/03/2008 00:38

You (or another minder) have to live in the housr you mind in

RahRahRachel · 30/03/2008 23:17

Do you have to mind from your own home, or is it possible to rent a house to work from, and have two childminders working from there?

KatyMac · 30/03/2008 19:42

That's turnover - not profit

imananny · 30/03/2008 19:39

vintageviolet - and so you should be paid for holidays

nick - OMG - im in the wrong job - 50k

though guess if you have 3 under 5 at 6ph min plus your over 5 school picks ups etc, I can see what you mean, and yes would earn more

least a childminder will get more for 2 children, where as a nanny gets a hourly/daily rate whether she 9or he) has 1 or 4 children

vInTaGeVioLeT · 30/03/2008 19:15

i'm fairly lazy and like to just mind 2 kids and my own ds so i'm lucky if i earn minimum wage usually!!

nannynick · 30/03/2008 19:10

A childminder local to me earns far more than I do, even after taking account of costs, tax etc. So if you are in the right area and fill all your spaces, then as a CM you can earn quite a bit - I'm talking annual turnover exceeding £50k.

vInTaGeVioLeT · 30/03/2008 19:03

another reason - we can earn more than a nanny if we are lucky and there are not too many c/m's locally - if i wanted[i don't!!] i could earn over £16 p/h just with under 8 yr olds.

vInTaGeVioLeT · 30/03/2008 18:59

rachel - her mum was a c/m so she's grown up with it!!

i've not asked why she choose c/m over nanny but i'd imagine that it's because as a c/m - we are self employed - not all your eggs are in one basket - you can pick'n'choose your mindees - you decide when you want to work - i do get paid for holidays[if parents don't like that then they choose another c/m]- we work from home.

RahRahRachel · 30/03/2008 18:41

Well, one reason is that you're self employed rather than employed, some people may want to work from their own home, and as a CM you're in charge of your own day.

Mum2Luke - I can see how it might not always work out like that, depending on how much competition their is for mindees/places etc.

Vintageviolet - do you know why your friend went into CMing?

imananny · 30/03/2008 18:11

I am not putting down childminders, or saying that nannies are better and without sounding nasty, why would a childless person want to be a childminder, rather than a nanny?

working as a nanny, you dont have to be registered/qualified/you get paid holidays and your house doesnt get trashed/made child proof, ie stair gates, plug sockets, oven guards etc

as a childminder you and your house have to go through rigerious checks (though i think all nannies should be checked/registered), you have to be qualified, you are se so often dont get paid holidays.

Nannies are sometimes lucky enough to take their child to work with them, but i assume (and sorry if im wrong ) but most CM do it as its the only way to work and look after their own children

vInTaGeVioLeT · 30/03/2008 17:35

i have a {new}friend who is a childless c/m and she is great - i'd definately use her for my ds - look at it this way ; when my mindees have gone home i still have my kids/dp/my needs to sort out - she has herself to please so she can really unwind from the day once the mindees are gone.

Mum2Luke · 30/03/2008 17:34

Be careful there Rachel, yes its great working from home (sometimes) but you can't really choose your own schedule/hours/mindees, you get whatever comes to you and if they like you and you like them thats fine.

I chose to do this job as I have a 6 yr old and could not afford to go out to work as I have no family nearby to help. I am now looking after 3 brothers (8,6 and 3 1/2) and a 5 yr old as well as my lad. I made a rule when they started that I do not have fighting, bullying or running in my house or they don't have treats and so far its worked. I will have to see how this first full time week goes...I'm hoping the weather is good so we can let off steam in the park. I think as long as children (even siblings) have boundaries we all get along just fine.

The only other bit iof cming is the paperwork and OFSTED want you to be trained in everything so you do endless courses after work when you least want to. Right, off to plan this week's activities!

RahRahRachel · 30/03/2008 15:37

I think it's true that most CMs are mothers - I'm not sure if parents would be interested in a young, childess CM?

I'm a childless nanny and I really like the idea of being a CM though - working from home, being your own boss, choosing your own schedule/hours/mindees etc.