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nannynick · 26/03/2008 11:46

Someone posting information on a website, asking for advice about a situation, happens often.
Sometimes that person is an employer, sometimes they are a childcare provider.
If no one is able to connect that persons message, with RL... then there isn't a great issue. But sometimes those in the know, can connect the message with RL.
Is there a soluition to that? We all like to be able to discuss things with our Mumsnet friends. The CAT system is terribly slow (as it's a human), and we may not know our Mumsnet friends in RL, so only have their Mumsnet username as a means of contact.
Posting about a situation at work - can be very educational for others. Such as a childminder posting about problems getting parents to pay on time, will result in other people saying what has worked for them in the past. Employers of nannies will ask for advice about how to handle a situation, be it redundancy, a nanny who is often sick, or what gift/bonus to give at Xmas.
What is the soluition? If people don't discuss things then they bottle it up and it explodes at a later date!

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Blueskythinker · 26/03/2008 14:26

Dear me, it all sounds very unprofessional, and Losttheclock hasn't had an opportunity to discuss things with her employee, yet Reanne & Jenna are between them, discussing with the nation on various forums.

I would be surprised if the relationship has not already broken down.

FWIW, and I know it is a bit off subject, I don't think it is reasonable to be paid for Good Friday. Bank holidays are normally paid on a pro rata basis, and entitlement accrues throughout the year, not as soon as you start working a different day. (For example, if someone works for only 6 months of the year, they are only entitled to half annual leave allowance and half bank holidays). But I think the employer (by whatever nom de plume) did the right thing by trying to find objective information about the situation. It shows she was taking the employee's concerns seriously.

wannaBe · 26/03/2008 14:26

I think posting personal informatio about your nanny/your employer falls in the same category as posting rl information about anyone really. i.e. don't post anything you wouldn't want people in rl to read.

I have come on here and posted information about my personal life, nothing that intimate, but enough information, ie town I live in/things about me, that it wouldn't be hard for people in rl to recognize me if they wanted to do so.

no-one really knows who reads these forums. My family don't know I come here, so similrly they might come here and I don't know. so surely the best way is to change as many details as possible so as to not make it obvious who you are.

as for Jenna, or whoever she is, I suspect she posted on that thread deliberately to alert the nanny in question to it. pretty low if you ask me.

JennaJ · 26/03/2008 14:25

Sorry pressed post to soon.

I was going to add that just because a nanny is having problems with her employer does not mean the care of the children will suffer in any way.

For the time that Raeanne was on the computer I was playing with the children..no different to if one of us had been in the kitchen making dinner! Infact better levelof care as we were both in the room together.

I think this is a bit personal now..You don't know any of us but you are happy to shoot the poor nanny down straight away!!

JudgeNutmeg · 26/03/2008 14:23

That's such cobblers.

JudgeNutmeg · 26/03/2008 14:22

How can her employers children be in her care if she is posting merrily away? Do you mean that she is 'on a playdate' without her employers children? How can they be her number one concern and how can she attending to their care and development if they are with her but she is engaged in personal entertainment. Is this what she is paid to do?

I'm frankly boggled by this.

JennaJ · 26/03/2008 14:21

Judgenutmeg- Thats a little unfair. There are 3 children here at the moment and they are drawing in the kitchen with Rachel. They are warm, well fed, safe, entertained and happy.... They have been supervised, safe, and happy 100% of the time today!

BeauLocks · 26/03/2008 14:19
Hmm
JennaJ · 26/03/2008 14:18

If you had read the other thread before it got deleted you would know that raeanne was on a playdate at my house. Hence using the same pc!

(Im not working today incase anyone jumps on me..I just have my dc with me)

I forgot to change the login before I posted!

Jenna

JudgeNutmeg · 26/03/2008 14:17

I would absolutely hate to think that my children were in such unprofessional care.

BeauLocks · 26/03/2008 14:10

But they use the same pc? ?

AtheneNoctua · 26/03/2008 14:10

Go to nanny job and look for a recent thread started by Reanne. Won't be difficult.

Reanne is the nanny. Jenna is her chum.

Blueskythinker · 26/03/2008 14:08

Look, I am confused, is Reanne the same as Jenna? I thought Jenna was the nanny's chum, but now are they one & the same? Plus, can someone post a link to the nannyjob thread - I need to go to Tescos & don't have time to search.

AtheneNoctua · 26/03/2008 14:08

I think we have enough threads on the matter. And, Reanne came on to give her side of the story (which is frankly the only side we have heard) so I think it's fair to respond to her on the thread where she posted it.

As I have recently learned taking a post and starting another thread on it is considered by MN to be a bpersonal attacke and just cause for the new thread to be deleted. So, no, I can't respond to her on another thread.

RahRahRachel · 26/03/2008 14:03

Athene, this thread is about the issue more generally - can't you use one of the other threads to discuss Raeanne?

AtheneNoctua · 26/03/2008 14:02

Furthermore, your MB has been far more restrained than you have on this matter. She at least had the decency to refuse to tell me what had happened.

Ironically, I suspect the posts you put on here today have probably sealed your fate more so than the ones on NJ.

AtheneNoctua · 26/03/2008 14:00

Ok, have now read the nannyjob thread, and I have to say if that thread had been started by a nanny (or any other employee) of mine , I would be most displeased.

Your posts on here today would be a violation of the confidentiality clause in my contract, and you would also be subject to discipplinary action for "Conduct during or outside working hours prejudicial to the interest or reputation of the Employer"

I don't know if I would sack you, but I would give you a warning. And I also would not pay you for bank hols -- they would count towards your 24 days of hols (prorated to the number of days you work).

RahRahRachel · 26/03/2008 13:50

I post on a few messageboards - this one, nannyjob and several other politics/music/general interest ones (yes, I'm an addict and no I'm not working at the moment!) - and I always post as if I am NOT anonymous. On MN and NJ I post as if my employers/past employers/future employers could read it. On other boards I post a little more freely, but wouldn't ask for advice on a board I'm a regular on that I didn't want my friends to see.

I would be absolutley devastated if I saw an employer had said something negative about me on here, and would never do that to someone else.

I don't do name-changes, and this is the only board I post on that allows it - as we've seen they don't always work! MN is probably the least user friendly board I've used in terms of it's interface though, and the only board where you can't send private messages instantly. I think if this aspect was improved it would be possible to discuss things privately with other users.

I also completely disagree that nannies (even childless ones!) using mumsnet or parents using nannyjob are "snooping".

Raeanne · 26/03/2008 13:44

No. There WERE emails back and forth, as I didn't understand the holiday thing, at the time. Was told that we would go through it together, but for whatever reason, it didn't happen and it only came to light when there was a bank holiday.

(Jenna forgot to log in as herself on last post).

RahRahRachel · 26/03/2008 13:42

I think it's unfair to start picking at Raeanne on this thread Athene - there's already another thread on mumsnet and one on nannyjob to discuss that specific issue!

AtheneNoctua · 26/03/2008 13:35

So that Bank Holiday thread was about you? You agreed to a contract, and then two months into the job sought to renegotiate the holiday terms? Is that right?

Raeanne · 26/03/2008 13:21

Can we talk about this subect in general rather than keep relating it back to the other post...

Jenna

AtheneNoctua · 26/03/2008 13:04

I've just tweaked (I know I'm a bit slow), but Jenna is probably one of the nanny's references... So OP has probably talked to he. Oh, that's weird. Even I'm a bit freaked out.

AtheneNoctua · 26/03/2008 13:02

This was the bit that would freak me out: "she is amazing with your children, caring and loving and they respond to her very well and are incredibly happy in her care"

Someone I don't even know starts telling me about my children and how wonderful their carer is??? THAT is information I don't need to read on the internet.

Twiglett · 26/03/2008 13:01

I really haven't taken a dislike to you Jenna .. I don't know you from Adam and wouldn't relate your posts on this subject to any other threads you might start / be on

I do think your posts today have been rather ill conceived, but appreciate that you feel you are supporting a friend.

nannynick · 26/03/2008 12:58

So what would be considered to be "personal real life information"? Clearly someone's real name, address, children's names.
What else would you include?

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