How much is government paying childminder for 15hrs childcare?

London - but one of the cheaper boroughs. She wasn’t that much cheaper than others locally but definitely on the cheaper side.
Are the published early years funding amounts not the minimum? And then school settings get more? Because there was a FOI request in my borough on exactly how much is paid to all the different settings in the area and that tallied up with the amounts published

Wow what region is that? Or is she way cheaper than others?
The LA rate is not what she's paid, schools get more, then the settings with an Sen child then deprivation the council takes their cut up to 5% too.

It varies a lot depending on area. I looked up our LA payment so I could work out how much was fair to give our childminder for “extras” and found out she charges less than the LA amount!

Just ask how it will work when your DC gets their 15 hours. She will have had other children presumably who had their 30 hour entitlement and will know what she needs to charge.

Ours has said that we’ll need to pay the difference between what she’ll get and her usual hourly rate, which seems entirely reasonable.

Nursery/....not gym

I'm sending my little one to a council owned gym. Does that make a difference?

As everyone says, it varies one LA to the next.
You can just say to her - we don't want you working for less than you get now, but obviously we'd appreciate the fact the Gvmnt part fund the hours - let us know what you get from the LA and we will top it up to what we are already paying.

The published rates for 9month olds can be as high as £12 based on nursery ratios then at 2 it drops by around a third and then at 3 to around £4.75/£5 but the published rates are not what the settings get

Most childminders I know won't turn away a child turning 3 we care very deeply for the welfare of the children in our care and having a child from 9 months means you build a bond and typically we take the hit.

The rate we are paid in my LA is not one flat rate for all the childminder rate seems to be varying by 30p an hour and is up to 89p less than the published rates. The council can take off up to 5% for admin ours pay extra to settings with SEN and also a percentage to pensions for qualified teachers so effectively nurseries get more.

Childminders feel especially aggrieved because the LAs syphon off a certain amount for "training purposes", then put most of the training on during the day, when childminders are working and can't attend.

Worcestershire will be paying £7.05 per hour from term after 2nd birthday until term after 3rd birthday. After that it drops to something like £5.19 per hour. (I can't remember the figure exactly).

Each local authority sets its own rate though.

Local authorities have historically underpaid childminders and nurseries for funded hours rather than what their actual hourly rate is. In my area 2 year olds have a slightly higher rate than 3/4 year olds. Most childcare settings will charge some sort of extra fee if the rate the local authority pays is not enough. I would just speak to your childminder as the funding rates are not top secret and can be accessed by anyone.

My local authority is paying around £5 for 3 year olds and £7/7.50 for 2 year olds.
And are expecting to pay about £9.50 for under 2s.

She won’t be making a loss, she will charge you the difference. Mine does.
Her hourly rate is £7 and we will pay the difference (charged as extras of course)

I’ve seen that a lot of LAs are paying around the £7/£7.50 amount. The only places I’ve seen that pay around £9 for 2 year olds is some London areas. I know in Kent the rate for 2 year olds is £7.55 as my sister is a childminder there whereas somewhere like Oldham get £7.89 and Oxfordshire get £7.89.

It’s going to be really difficult once a child goes into the 3 year old funding as the funding drops by an alarming amount. I agree that some childminders are going to focus on the younger children as, financially, it makes sense and they don’t have to battle to be paid their usual hourly rate.

But also it isn't rare, at least not on the UK childminding group I'm part of. £9-12 seems to be quite the norm, £12 being for under 2s.

Yes sorry I missed the age of op's child. Yes it will be lower then. Sadly I can see a lot of childminders only taking on under 2s in future which is sad.

That’s very rare if at all, some are making slightly more than their usual hourly rate for 2 year olds but this amount obviously drops when they turn 3. A higher amount will be paid for 9 months to 2 years when that funding starts.

£45 a day is actually really low for quite a lot of places nowadays. I'm not in London but you'd struggle to get childcare for much less than £60 a day around here.

Anyway sorry that was to previous posted.

Regarding rates, many local authorities are paying childminders £12 per hour! So they'll actually be making more, not less. It is kind of you to offer though. You could look up what your local authority is paying

I don't. Nurseries around here start at £9 an hour. I am not in London.

They’ll often make up the money eg by having 2 sessions in the day which are feee but a lunchtime in between the sessions that is at a higher rate and you pay for lunch (food is not included in free hours). Most places don’t have free hours without any top ups, I’d ask what her policy is

It varies hugely between different local authorities.

Surrey paid less than Hampshire who paid less than Wiltshire back in the day. Utter madness seeing as though Surrey was the most expensive place to operate due to house prices!

She will probably charge you some on top of that - all childminders and nurseries that I know of do it.
Last time I tried to look up the hourly amount in our area it was so so hard to find, I think it was less than £4/ hour and we are in London ‘burbs so they will def need the top up!