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Nanny from my home childcare idea

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Confidentialinfo · 09/01/2024 19:37

With the evolution of hybrid working and many families working from home more often do you think there is a gap in the market for a hybrid childcare approach?

Basically a Nanny that is also a registered childminder - so would pick up child from home in the morning, breakfast there (clean up all nanny type duties) then on to groups or whatnot - then parents have the option if they would like the child to be cared for at their home or the Nanny’s home depending if they are working from home - then nanny brings child back then dinner and bath ready for parents to take over of a late afternoon/ evening. Can’t decide if there could be a gap in the market or if it’s too complicated.

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Confidentialinfo · 12/01/2024 17:00

Yes for me I run my childminding and nanny business though a business, not as self employed so it should be more simple for me to be able to invoice 2 days a week of each at the same rate, or just invoice all as childminder guess this is all tbc

At the moment I childmind 4 days a week and do event/ soho farmhouse nannying on weekends if a good enough offer comes along!

thanks for all the advice - think I’ll go for it as a one off and see how it works. Such a lovely family.

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HarrietStyles · 11/01/2024 22:42

Yes correct. They had a childminding contract exactly the same as any other person does who hires the services of a Childminder. At the beginning of each year we mutually chose 4 weeks holiday that worked for us both. There was obviously no sick pay, just like any other self employed childminder. Everything was the same as any other childminder, except I exclusively worked for one family and in return they paid me the same rate as a Nanny.

jannier · 11/01/2024 22:38

similarminimer · 09/01/2024 22:37

The reguations say you do not need to register if you are a nanny (even if you look after them in your own home etc).

You can not look after someone else's child in your own home for financial rewards for more than 2 hours if they are under 8.

jannier · 11/01/2024 22:36

Summerscoming23 · 09/01/2024 20:03

I'm confused what's the difference in a nanny and a childminder ? I know a childminder who does this ?

You can not nanny from your own home it's illegal. A nanny doesn't have to follow the EYFS and the inspections if they choose to be Ofsted registered are different

Crikeyalmighty · 11/01/2024 18:10

Worked for me too @HarrietStyles many years ago-

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/01/2024 17:10

HarrietStyles · 11/01/2024 11:10

I did exactly this, all above board. The family wanted one on one care for their child but the Mum worked from home and needed quiet. I had been working as a Childminder previously, so was already registered with Ofsted. I was a self-employed Childminder but I chose to only look after one child, no other families. I charged them them an hourly rate equivalent to Nannying and they had my exclusive use in return. I picked up the baby from their house, childminded her all day at my home, then dropped her back home at the end of the day. I followed the EYFS, completed all Childminding paperwork, had childminding insurance and was Ofsted inspected. It was a perfect set up for everyone. I think there will be more demand for this now that more people work from home.

So they paid you three times the usual cm rate for you to be their nanny but really a cm

So you had a cm aka your contract with all the cm stuff but said payment was £15/18phg

Who chose the rules about holidays /sick pay etc

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/01/2024 17:08

nannynick · 11/01/2024 10:20

Childminders are able to be an unregistered nanny. Most wouldn't do it though as they have their own children and they childmind from their own home so their children do not have to travel somewhere else early morning.

Whilst the nanny/childminder combo may appeal to a parent, it won't be something that appeals to many childminders. In the OP's case, if it suits them then fine but they may find that they get paid more if they were a nanny the entire time, and went out to places during the day.

But to be a nanny they need to look after the kids in the kids home

Not theirs

Op is talking about talking kids back to hers so parents get to work at home in peace

So then reverts back to a cm and being self employed

Not an employed nanny @nannynick

Confidentialinfo · 11/01/2024 14:56

HarrietStyles · 11/01/2024 11:10

I did exactly this, all above board. The family wanted one on one care for their child but the Mum worked from home and needed quiet. I had been working as a Childminder previously, so was already registered with Ofsted. I was a self-employed Childminder but I chose to only look after one child, no other families. I charged them them an hourly rate equivalent to Nannying and they had my exclusive use in return. I picked up the baby from their house, childminded her all day at my home, then dropped her back home at the end of the day. I followed the EYFS, completed all Childminding paperwork, had childminding insurance and was Ofsted inspected. It was a perfect set up for everyone. I think there will be more demand for this now that more people work from home.

Amazing! So glad to hear you’ve done it and it worked! The family interested will pay me exclusive nanny rate wherever I’m working from.

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HarrietStyles · 11/01/2024 11:10

I did exactly this, all above board. The family wanted one on one care for their child but the Mum worked from home and needed quiet. I had been working as a Childminder previously, so was already registered with Ofsted. I was a self-employed Childminder but I chose to only look after one child, no other families. I charged them them an hourly rate equivalent to Nannying and they had my exclusive use in return. I picked up the baby from their house, childminded her all day at my home, then dropped her back home at the end of the day. I followed the EYFS, completed all Childminding paperwork, had childminding insurance and was Ofsted inspected. It was a perfect set up for everyone. I think there will be more demand for this now that more people work from home.

HarrietStyles · 11/01/2024 10:59

Sonora25 · 09/01/2024 20:13

Why not? As long as the parents agree a nanny can take the child anywhere.

Why not? Because it is illegal! Presuming you are in England- Anyone who is paid to look after a child for more than 2 hours a week in their own home MUST register as a Childminder with Ofsted. You can’t hire a “Nanny” and then tell them that you are happy for them to work from their house I’m afraid.

LaurieStrode · 11/01/2024 10:46

Sounds like an excellent niche service for dual income couples.

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 11/01/2024 10:43

the amount of thinking and planning and who is where / when and then the big client meeting s gets moved and so you have to reorganise it again…. 🤯🤯🤯
it would boil my brain.

Itll make all the ey paperwork for the inspections for the childminding side a pain in the arse as well

nannynick · 11/01/2024 10:20

Childminders are able to be an unregistered nanny. Most wouldn't do it though as they have their own children and they childmind from their own home so their children do not have to travel somewhere else early morning.

Whilst the nanny/childminder combo may appeal to a parent, it won't be something that appeals to many childminders. In the OP's case, if it suits them then fine but they may find that they get paid more if they were a nanny the entire time, and went out to places during the day.

Blondeshavemorefun · 11/01/2024 09:17

It's a fine line tbh

You can't be registered as a cm if caring for kids in their own home as that's a nanny

If in own home as a cm you are self employed and I can't imagine any family happily paying £6/7 as a cm then going to a nanny rate of £16/17 gross but still as a cm in your home

If you are being their nanny you need to be employed as your only job so isn't multiple families and how some nannies get 'round' the se title so can't be as a cm

Hope I'm making sense as work nights so going to bed in a mo

@nannynick is clued up on all this stuff

If there is a way he would know

Crikeyalmighty · 10/01/2024 23:04

@Confidentialinfo I had an arrangement like this 24 years ago- she was amazing- the 1 slight difference was that she had our son at her house post 10am after coming to ours at 8.15am and getting him ready and breakfasted , often she took him to groups and out and about too - but post 3.15 she did a school pick up and also had a 6 year old teachers child for an hour and a half as well - it worked really well.

GreatGateauxsby · 10/01/2024 22:59

I wouldn’t like or want this…

the amount of thinking and planning and who is where / when and then the big client meeting s gets moved and so you have to reorganise it again…. 🤯🤯🤯
it would boil my brain.

my child is either in my house or at the CMs.

if she’s at the CMs and i want to do something with my DD I say I am dropping her in at 11 or I say I am finishing early I’ll do pick up at 4 don’t bother with dinner.

Notsuredontknow · 10/01/2024 22:48

It’s something that DH and I would have loved as we WFH a lot when our first DC went to childcare but not so much now. I tend to agree with PP that it’s probably a bit niche, can’t imagine it being a high priority for a lot of families, particularly as nannies tend to take the kids out a lot for activities anyway

NuffSaidSam · 10/01/2024 22:42

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/01/2024 19:39

So what would you be op

A nanny or cm

I'm not sure it really matters as long as everyone is happy and the OP has all the relevant paperwork, does it?

WashItTomorrow · 10/01/2024 21:56

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/01/2024 19:39

So what would you be op

A nanny or cm

She is a registered childminder as well as a registered nanny. She can split her week into two jobs, as childminder and nanny, both registered and paid differently. She can charge what she wants. If she wants to charge “nanny” rates for the cm part, she can. Childminders don’t have to have 2/3 mindees - my cm only has one mindee. The OP does this at the moment and is considering changing.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/01/2024 19:39

So what would you be op

A nanny or cm

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/01/2024 19:38

To have the children in her home she has to be a registered childminder

A nanny can’t take children to her own home to mind them

A cm is self employed and earns £6/7ph area depending as usually has 2/3 children all day

A nanny is employed by the family and cost £15/20ph

WashItTomorrow · 10/01/2024 08:22

I think it’s a good idea if you can make it work for you. I think many WFH parents would like such a setup.

Confidentialinfo · 10/01/2024 08:12

Thank you for all the feedback positive and negative!
In terms of tax I run my childminding biz through a company anyway. Could just invoice two days as employed and two through the business.
I’m glad some people think the idea has legs… the couple I would potentially do it for I have worked with for 18 months already and as they use my childminding biz know I don’t just do housework when kn supposed to be engaging with their child (??!!) sad that’s what people think about childminders.

This family have customers come to their house some days - think therapist type job where they don’t want to risk the noise of a child. Yes their house is very large but toddlers screams can travel!
Also the idea that when parents WFH they can pop in say hi and then go back to work without causing upset with the child is quite unusual/ especially if baby/toddler age.

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ButterCrackers · 10/01/2024 08:11

That sounds a good idea. Check out the administration requirements.

Mammillaria · 10/01/2024 08:07

I'm surprised at the negative replies. We had a nanny when 2 of our DC were young and I mostly worked from home and would have loved this. Yes, I had a separate office but I could definitely hear normal child noise from elsewhere in the house and our lovely nanny probably felt under more pressure than normal to take them out to groups etc and keep noise from escalating too much.

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