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Niece's baby girl and childcare

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avecmum · 10/11/2023 09:32

Hi, I'm going round in circles in my head my niece has asked me to look after her little girl for a day a week when she goes back to work next month. My niece works in finance and works long hours and her partner works too. I know it is hard going back to work I have had 3 children, all who have grown up, none have had children of their own yet and I am more than prepared to step in and help them when they do. My sister works for herself and helps my niece a lot and is also going to look after her granddaughter when my niece goes back to work. I did explain I am actively looking for work as finances are getting tighter for us. Part of me would love to but part of me feels I am being put upon, which is also my partners thoughts. I do feel honoured to have been asked as i love her lots. I would have to go drive to my niece's house and look after her for the day, (while my sister will look after her grandaughter at her own house) I know that already as I live in the opposite direction to her place of work. I have looked at houses for sale in estate agents windows recently when we have all been out, just being nosey really to see how much houses are in that area, and the comment was said last time, "you cant be moving far as you've got child care duties". It was said in jest but I would help anyone. I have an elderly parent who has dementia, only the early stages and they are totally in denial and i drop everything when they call. I take them shopping a day a week and go round and clean another day a week for them, which i have done for the last 3 plus years. I have explained this when my niece first asked me and they know this so nothing more has been said. I have my elderly parent, my children to be there for when they need some help, my partner. Half of me would love to help, I feel honoured that my niece has asked me. I remember when mine where first born and i had to return to work my mum helped me and they went to nursery one day a week when they were slightly older. I just feel i'm getting back on my feet and looking for work feel things will become difficult and nasty if i don't say yes. Just wanted someone outside of the family's view of this.

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WowOK · 12/11/2023 09:01

1 day a week is a big commitment. The thing is once you start doing something it becomes your job and an expectation. Then people get arsey when you can't do it and are sick or want to go on holiday. They forget all the times you've helped them and he upset because you're letting them down. I wouldn't commit to a regular day/time ect. A one off in an emergency is a very different thing.

Draculina · 12/11/2023 08:59

Why do you feel honoured that your niece has asked you for help? It makes it sound like you feel like she's the one doing you a favor here.

It's up to you if you want to commit to this childcare arrangement, but in your shoes I'd at least make it a condition that your niece brings and collects her child to and from your house.

2jacqi · 12/11/2023 08:51

@avecmum "you cant be moving far as you've got child care duties" I definitely think you are being used. if they want you to babysit on a regular basis then they should be taking baby to you, not the other way round. the other problem i see is your parent with dementia. what if they get worse and they really need your help on a dailly basis? would your niece be understanding if you were not suddenly available? what if your own children were to have babies, would they be still expecting you to baby sit their's and not your own grandchildren??

Takenobull · 12/11/2023 08:36

So they’re basically trying to wangle free childcare!!! They need to realise the reality of having children and the cost involved. Or perhaps they do and that’s why they’re asking you to do a day. 😏

I would just say that you are so touched to have been asked but, you don’t want to be unreliable what with your mother being unwell and also that financially you can’t commit either. Explain that you are currently looking for work as you’re struggling with money. This will be when you see whether they’re asking you because they genuinely want you to have their daughter or whether they want free childcare. If it’s genuine then they will offer to pay you!! This would be best case scenario because it would potentially be useful to you also (if you want to look after her that is).

I’d also explain that you’re more than happy to have their daughter in last minute scenarios or if they want to go out in the evenings etc. I don’t think you can say fairer than that. And if they don’t like it well- that’s on them.

Sjh15 · 12/11/2023 08:15

Say no if you want to say no. But please do not give this mum who will struggle for childcare all your essays about your dad or working or moving house. Of course while it’s horrible especially what you’re going through with your dad, she doesn’t need to hear all of that as your answer because it just sounds like any excuse to say no. Just leaving it as ‘I’m so sorry, i need to get a job so i can’t commit to a day a week’ is enough

lemmein · 10/11/2023 11:47

DO NOT DO IT!

I looked after my DN when my SIL went back to work for 2 days a week. It's a massive pain in the arse arranging your life around somebody else's childcare needs; I would never do it again!

BinkyBeaufort · 10/11/2023 11:35

Agree with PPs - you have to be firm and actually use the word no, even if you have to wrap it up a bit.
And let's be clear, you do NOT have childcare duties. Cheeky fuckers.

Mariposista · 10/11/2023 11:18

avecmum · 10/11/2023 09:54

Although she works in finance i know my neice doesn't earn a lot so I think that is another reason to ask me.

She should have factored in childcare costs when she and partner decided to get pregnant.

avecmum · 10/11/2023 10:52

Yes thank you, now i have written this all down, you have all made me feel stronger x

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Comedycook · 10/11/2023 10:50

Just tell them that your father is increasingly reliant on you so you cannot commit to a regular childcare arrangement

avecmum · 10/11/2023 10:48

Yes I'm worried about the commitment at the bottom of me, as I just don't know what the future holds with my parent. My dad looks and talks just fine and no one would know anything. So much has gone missing over the last few years, things disappear, and no one apart from myself and my partner see the ups and downs. He has accused people of getting in the house but just shouts 'get the police in' and then in another breath says 'no one comes in my house when I am here' He is 90 and sleeps a lot and is VERY VERY strong willed and minded. He would disown me as much as look at me and i know that! He has waved me out the drive in the past and told me to go when i asked him to not give my children sweets and laterly when he got a pack of digestive biscuits out to give to my dog. He shouted at me no one is telling me i cannot give a dog biscuits. He has fallen out with lots of people over the years. My brother, his son was tragically killed in an accident many years ago so i feel for the last 30 years i have had to make sure my parents were ok and i feel i have made a rod for my own back but that is my nature. I have said i will get a camera for him to put up in the house and have just bought one on amazon last night and this morning and he has just called me to say he doesn't want me to get one so i have to send it back. The situation is delicate at the minute but as far as he is concerned he is on top of the world, basically my family have kept him going, as you do. I can talk to no one apart from my partner, i do write it all down in a diary so i don't go mad and that does help. The only way i can explain it is, he very much someone who lives in the 'man world' of the 1950's, i should respect him because he is my father, his word is final. Sorry I have totally gone off my original subject but thank you for your help with the the childcare issue i do feel better :) x

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Swirlycard · 10/11/2023 10:48

Swirlycard · 10/11/2023 10:21

Huh?
She is a blood relative. Her niece is her brother's daughter.

Oops. Very sorry @Trenda. I got that wrong.
You were right of course. My apologies.

SlightlygrumpyBettyswaitress · 10/11/2023 10:47

Just say no, can't commit.
If it is true, you can say you are happy to help if there is a breakdown in childcare or emergency.

Comedycook · 10/11/2023 10:33

Don't feel honoured. It's not an honour...it's hard work and you'd be saving her an absolute fortune. Don't do it. You are busy enough. You will also struggle to get out of this arrangement.

avecmum · 10/11/2023 10:29

Yes it is my husband's brother daughter.

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Mazuslongtoenail · 10/11/2023 10:29

My mum used to help with childcare but my dad has dementia and I was the one who said ‘I don’t think you can do this anymore.’ Looking after a baby / toddler and someone with dementia is too hard, and as things progress, frankly dangerous.

It’s a huge commitment and you’re absolutely not obliged. x

AnneLovesGilbert · 10/11/2023 10:26

I’d stop feeling honoured/obligated and realise she’s a cheeky cow for trying to make you give her free childcare and dictating where you live. I mean, really.

Firm no thank you, don’t apologise for not saving her thousands of pounds a year, don’t say you’ll be there if she needs anything. The baby has two parents and however many grandparents. You are none of those people!

Cactifly · 10/11/2023 10:25

Would it help if they paid you? Likely still much cheaper than nursery. Mine have been to nursery since 1 so I'm not anti-nursery, but if the option had been there for them to be looked after by a relative (even at a cost) I've have taken it.

Swirlycard · 10/11/2023 10:21

Trenda · 10/11/2023 09:49

I just feel i'm getting back on my feet and looking for work feel things will become difficult and nasty if i don't say yes. * *

So despite the fact that you have care for your parent ,are looking for work and are not a blood relative to the mother /child things might turn nasty if you refuse their kind offer?

Huh?
She is a blood relative. Her niece is her brother's daughter.

Fraaahnces · 10/11/2023 10:13

Just tell her straight that it’s a no and make it soon or you will be guilt-tripped because “But I was counting on you being available!”

avecmum · 10/11/2023 10:07

Thank you everyone x

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WaltzingWaters · 10/11/2023 10:07

SleepingStandingUp · 10/11/2023 09:37

I've very honoured you asked Betty but I just can't commit the way you'd need me to. I need to find full time paid work and that's already complicated around caring for Granny (incidentally does your sister help with your Mom?). I'm happy to help in an emergency or for extra child care as and when, but I wouldn't want to mee you around with work and Granny.

Just say something along these lines. You’re happy to help at times but cannot commit to a day every week as you are looking for work yourself.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2023 10:00

avecmum · 10/11/2023 09:54

Although she works in finance i know my neice doesn't earn a lot so I think that is another reason to ask me.

If she is working long hours and not earning much, perhaps she needs to look for a different job!

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 10/11/2023 09:59

Of course you shouldn't feel under pressure to do this. Offering to help in emergencies is more than enough and should be greatly appreciated. You are under no obligation to do anything at all.

If your niece and her DH both work long hours in finance, and their mum is already helping out with some days, then I'm sure that they can afford to pay for good quality childcare on the other days.

avecmum · 10/11/2023 09:54

Although she works in finance i know my neice doesn't earn a lot so I think that is another reason to ask me.

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