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agency or internet?....

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ingles2 · 05/03/2008 21:32

so following on from this afternoons dramas do I
A/ get another AP from crappy and expensive agency
or
B/ take the plunge and try the internet?
Is anyone looking or interviewing on aupair world at the mo?

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marmadukescarlet · 10/03/2008 16:02

Where? I will have a quick hunt....

ingles2 · 10/03/2008 12:55

Hi Marmaduke...
Spoken to them, have you seen my other thread?

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marmadukescarlet · 10/03/2008 10:58

Good luck with the ex AP agency today!

MrsRecycle · 09/03/2008 12:09

Oh brilliant ingles - definitely a good day yesterday - fingers crossed for you. I now have a few more candidates and am seeing local AP on Thursday now.

ingles2 · 08/03/2008 20:48

guess what I've been approached by a czech couple on newaupair!!!! Might work, as we've got a small granny flat!
Have just emailed all the stuff, so... fingers crossed!

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MrsRecycle · 08/03/2008 19:16

au pair world - can't believe it. She is rather young though but has experience of working in nurseries. I will let you know how I get on tomorrow (and how she gets on with LOs including ds 18months) and if she is okay, I'll bounce the idea of her to come down your way. Obviously, I'll check out her references beforehand.

ingles2 · 08/03/2008 19:02

OMG Mrs Recycle!.. Where did you find her? you lucky thing you... definitely if she seems good....

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ingles2 · 08/03/2008 19:00

I sent my questions out in an email to the AP's but they're based on the questions further down this page very very kindly posted by blueshoes. It's only practical stuff.
Having spent the last 2 hours ironing am feeling very deperate for someone wonderful to come along.

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MrsRecycle · 08/03/2008 18:58

[excited] am interviewing an AP tomorrow (face to face) who lives just round the corner and drives. We don't need her until middle of April, so if she turns out ok, I could ask her if she wants to do a temporary position in Kent until then ingles - what do you think? Gives you a bit of time - plus she has APed before and has reference. Also, she is a car driver with her own car - knew that would get your attention!!

marmadukescarlet · 08/03/2008 18:42

Ingles where are you Q's posted? (the ones based on MrsR/eleusis' questions

MrsRecycle · 08/03/2008 16:21

deja vu, ingles, I remember the July thing from last year's search - they only want to be here for the summer holidays.

ingles2 · 08/03/2008 16:16

Thanks for your support everyone, god this is time consuming though isn't it!
New au pair have now thrown me up, 4 girls who can start in July (!) can't drive (!!) and want to be in London (!!!)
gotta or I'll cry!
er.btw....what's that all about cod?

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MrsRecycle · 08/03/2008 16:03

ingles sorry to hear search isn't going too well. Mind you I had a chuckle to myself the other night as your questions are based on my questions that are based on eleusis questions and it must be funny that all the candidates are getting the same questions - they might think it's the families that are strange (or we might be an agency!)

I don't think it's a country thing - we are in London and my daily update has had average on one person that matches our requirements. I really think that the date for starting is the problem - I'm looking for April and have no candidates whatsoever (and no one has added me to their favourites, so you are doing better).

I agree with blueshoes, you may want to ring them up but it is extremely timeconsuming and at least with questionnaires you get a good idea of the type of person/match to your family.

We had a meeting with dds and dh regarding APs impending departure and replacement and they are going to add a couple of questions and then shortlist the replies (if ever we get any!).

Good luck - hope the weekend brings someone hopeful.

blueshoes · 08/03/2008 15:28

ingles2, it IS a country thing. Don't lose heart. My current aupair's last family lived in a tiny village with one infrequent bus out of it - they gave her a good ref. She grew up in a rural setting herself, so said she was fine with it.

If you want an aupair now, it might be a tricky time to be looking because most longer term ones would be with their families by now. At worst, the next season coming up is for summer aupairs (ie 3 months or shorter) and some might be looking now.

Hang in there.

CodofCodHall · 08/03/2008 14:48

Have you checked out this site yet?

marmadukescarlet · 08/03/2008 14:40

Hello Ingles

I have to say I get fed up with some girls who contact me and then when I email a few times decide they want to be in London - it's not like I'm moved since they contacted me!

I am really enjoying not having one, but I'm sure the novelty will wear off as the ironing mounts up!

ingles2 · 08/03/2008 14:31

I've only had about 20 responses, and most of the ones I've contacted have said no, it's a country thing (I hope!)
When I sent out the questions I linked a web page with pics of everything, and more stuff about us. My favourite so far has put us on her favourites but I haven't heard anything else.
Most of them aren't right tbh... have registered on new au pair now as well and have had 1 reply from a girl who can start in July! I need someone like....yesterday!

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blueshoes · 08/03/2008 13:11

ingles2, it is a nailbiting thing. I use the questionnaire to screen applicants because I get literally hundreds of responses. I think that is because I live in London, not for any other reason. They just see London and don't bother to read my requirements, so indicate interest even though the start date on their profile, say, is completely out. I don't contact those.

Only those whose profile are in line and which I like I send the questionnaire to, say, about 5-10 candidates. I will be lucky if half reply, usually not at once.

Have you had more interest to your ad? The alternative is to send an email giving them more details about yourself, eg link to webpage and ask if they are still interested. If they reply, you can then pick up the phone and get their responses by phone to a shortened version of your questionnaire. Of course, this presupposes their standard of conversational English is quite high- which is a very good thing to have esp if you want to be able to instruct your aupair over the phone.

It is more timeconsuming and costly but you get to where you need quickly.

When do you want your aupair to start?

ingles2 · 08/03/2008 12:15

I think I need more than luck blueshoes.... I thin I need a bleedin' miracle
I've emailed about 5 potential au pairs now and not one has responded to the list of questions [gulp!]

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blueshoes · 06/03/2008 13:22

You will find that aupairs who seem previously interested do melt away once you email them the list ie you suddenly don't hear from them. That could be a good thing - the last thing you want are time wasters who really have some other family in mind but are just talking to you as a back up.

In fact, ingles2, the most frustrating thing about using these websites is that, at ANY POINT along the screening/emailing process, Even If they clear the endurance tests, they might stop emailing or suddenly say they have chosen another family, even though you thought things were going swimmingly.

I would advise emailing a handful of candidates concurrently, rather than consecutively. And be quick off the mark, if you find someone good. Speak to the winning candidate over the phone at least once, just to get a feel for her personality and most importantly, their level of conversational English.

Good luck. A lot of it IS luck.

ingles2 · 06/03/2008 13:03

Nah, they've got to drive,...even I wouldn't want to walk 8 miles a day to school and back twice!
I'll have to stick in loads of questions about that and being in the middle of nowhere,..we're not really, only 10 mins from Tenterden sometimes it just seems like it...I've always paid for driving lessons here to begin with anyway.
Maybe I'll have to stick in...
You've crashed the car... what do you do?

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blueshoes · 06/03/2008 12:58

ingles2, if you still have the appetite for a driving aupair, you will of course have to put a heap of questions in relating to driving.

If you want your aupair to walk 2 miles, you will have to clear that with her before you make an offer. My aupair has to walk 25 mins to dd's school and back (no buses), making it close to an hour's walking a day. The jury of mn felt that it was very individual to an aupair whether or not she would want to do it. So I laid it on thick and got the right girl for the job.

eleusis · 06/03/2008 12:56

I think I would like to have a special power that tells me what someone is really thinking when they are lying to me.

Oh well, who am I to talk. Princess Peahead describes my questions as "hideous".

blueshoes · 06/03/2008 12:54

eleusis, that was a suggestion from another mnetter. I believe the answer from an aupair later found to be thieving was that she liked to be invisible! The ones who answered it were quite good natured about it, like being a mermaid. All fun. Not compulsory BTW, ingles2, lol

ingles2 · 06/03/2008 12:50

That's brilliant,..Thank you.
Well, I can either write the car off on the insurance as the insurance co say its £1200 worth of damage and the car is only worth that (the excess is £400) but then my premiums are going to be massive or a (probably dodgy) local guy can try and weld in a new side from another car for about £500... This is probably the option I'm going for cos I only put it through it's MOT last week, no problems really new tyres, lights etc... but what a bloody hassle!

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