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Should Granny be allowed to give Grandchild treats?

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GrandmaNelly · 13/04/2023 14:58

Long time lurker, first time poster. Question is in the heading, but to give a bit of background…
I babysit a grandchild for my DD and a grandchild for my DS. I look after each child 2 days a week. On one day I have both, the other times I have them separate. DS and DDIL did not want grandchild to have treats until he was 18 months. Grandchild is now nearly two. I give both grandchildren the odd treat (crisps, biscuit, chocolate), but DS and DDIL don’t want me to and say they want to give all the treats. I find this difficult when I have both grandchildren together as DD has always allowed treats.
I want to address this but suspect if there is a falling out they will cut all contact and my grandchildren mean everything to me, so I’m scared of that happening. Any advice on how I can approach this or what you would do? Please be kind to an old grandma full of worry.

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SirChenjins · 14/04/2023 13:06

Good grief @IMustDoMoreExercise - you need to relax more and take a more balanced approach to food. Children don't get obese because they've had an Easter egg, or a cupcake at granny's when they go twice a week.

maddy68 · 14/04/2023 13:04

Kids don't need treats and if their parents dint want them to have them then don't give them. Can't you buy them a comic instead ?

SunnySaturdayMorning · 14/04/2023 13:04

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 12:51

But times have changed. We now know how bad sugar is for kids and we now have an obesity and diabetes crisis.

How many people are obese or have diabetes because chocoates, crisps and other unhealthy "treats" became normalised as an everyday (and often multiple times per day) occurence?

Kids should not eat between meals.

Actually the NHS recommends 3 meals and 2 snacks a day, they just recommend healthy ones (so not chocolate bars, crisps, biscuits like OP wants to give).

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 13:00

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 12:58

Hopefully they will be laughing when they don't get diabetes or become obese like most adults in the UK.

I meant most adults are overweight in the UK, not obese, although 25% are obese which is bad enough.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 12:58

PollyThePixie · 14/04/2023 12:35

I’m sure they’ll find your senses of humor a right laugh.

Hopefully they will be laughing when they don't get diabetes or become obese like most adults in the UK.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 12:51

And if they have to eat between meals, it needs to be a healthy snack not rubbish.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 12:51

saraclara · 14/04/2023 12:30

Good grief.

You think they'll ONLY like you for the Easter Egg? As I said upthread, my kids have lovely memories of their grandma 'spoiling them' as children. But it wasn't about the treats, it was about the absolute unconditional love she had for them, which she showed in many ways. One of which was sharing her own love of chocolate!

She lived a few hours away, and when they'd get a random bar of chocolate through the post from her, they felt loved and thought of.

Amazingly they're healthy eating adults, and they know how to love, because they've been so generously loved themselves.

But times have changed. We now know how bad sugar is for kids and we now have an obesity and diabetes crisis.

How many people are obese or have diabetes because chocoates, crisps and other unhealthy "treats" became normalised as an everyday (and often multiple times per day) occurence?

Kids should not eat between meals.

SirChenjins · 14/04/2023 12:46

Where does the OP say the parents of the child are principally fine with the DC having small occasional appropriate treats?

mummyoffourminimes · 14/04/2023 12:44

I can see how this has transpired, the OP seems to have a very warped view of what is suitable for a 1 year old. The parents of the child are principally fine with the DC having small occasional appropriate treats but knows the OP's approach and views so they choose to give the treats them self.

PollyThePixie · 14/04/2023 12:35

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 10:49

I am a grandmother myself and I will never give my grandkids crisps, chocolates etc (not even Easter eggs) because I dont' want them to like me just for giving them unhealthy "treats".

I don't care what their parents give them as it is beyond my control.

I’m sure they’ll find your senses of humor a right laugh.

PollyThePixie · 14/04/2023 12:33

SirChenjins · 14/04/2023 09:25

If he doesn't trust the OP's judgement on this then the best thing for him to do is to look for paid childcare that he trusts then.

Amen!

saraclara · 14/04/2023 12:30

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 10:49

I am a grandmother myself and I will never give my grandkids crisps, chocolates etc (not even Easter eggs) because I dont' want them to like me just for giving them unhealthy "treats".

I don't care what their parents give them as it is beyond my control.

Good grief.

You think they'll ONLY like you for the Easter Egg? As I said upthread, my kids have lovely memories of their grandma 'spoiling them' as children. But it wasn't about the treats, it was about the absolute unconditional love she had for them, which she showed in many ways. One of which was sharing her own love of chocolate!

She lived a few hours away, and when they'd get a random bar of chocolate through the post from her, they felt loved and thought of.

Amazingly they're healthy eating adults, and they know how to love, because they've been so generously loved themselves.

SirChenjins · 14/04/2023 11:07

Not even an Easter egg? Bloody hell ☹️ You know they will see you as more than a bar of chocolate if you give them one (or many), right?

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 10:49

jannier · 14/04/2023 10:39

Should Apples etc only be used as treats? If they are part of a normal diet they are no more treats than bread, meat or cheese ....so just call it a snack ....but what your not getting is dad walks in grabs the biscuits and stuffs one in the child's hands the very biscuit he would have taken the child away from granny for giving an hour earlier. That's the shitty thing.

I am a grandmother myself and I will never give my grandkids crisps, chocolates etc (not even Easter eggs) because I dont' want them to like me just for giving them unhealthy "treats".

I don't care what their parents give them as it is beyond my control.

jannier · 14/04/2023 10:42

saltwater1985 · 13/04/2023 19:30

Anyone else glad they're not related to @SunnySaturdayMorning ?

Makes a miserable Saturday afternoon

jannier · 14/04/2023 10:39

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 10:17

I agree with this.

Why can't the "treats" be apples, bananas etc?

You should not be giving kids crisps and chocolates and certainly not for good behaviour.

Should Apples etc only be used as treats? If they are part of a normal diet they are no more treats than bread, meat or cheese ....so just call it a snack ....but what your not getting is dad walks in grabs the biscuits and stuffs one in the child's hands the very biscuit he would have taken the child away from granny for giving an hour earlier. That's the shitty thing.

IMustDoMoreExercise · 14/04/2023 10:17

mummyoffourminimes · 14/04/2023 09:13

That all sounds like you want to give a lot of treats for a 1 year old.

Squash isn't a good option for a baby, grapes are obviously problematic, as is giving a sharp kebab stick to a 1 year old. It seems that you want to give a bag of crisps and a chocolate bar every time you have the child plus squash to drink. I wouldn't be happy with this either. I expect it's your approach to treats (including for bribery) that is leading to your DS having much strict rules and regulations wanting to allow the treats himself. I don't think he trusts your judgement on it at all. I wouldn't either.

I agree with this.

Why can't the "treats" be apples, bananas etc?

You should not be giving kids crisps and chocolates and certainly not for good behaviour.

mummyoffourminimes · 14/04/2023 09:29

SirChenjins · 14/04/2023 09:25

If he doesn't trust the OP's judgement on this then the best thing for him to do is to look for paid childcare that he trusts then.

Agree. Sounds stressful all round.

SirChenjins · 14/04/2023 09:25

If he doesn't trust the OP's judgement on this then the best thing for him to do is to look for paid childcare that he trusts then.

mummyoffourminimes · 14/04/2023 09:13

That all sounds like you want to give a lot of treats for a 1 year old.

Squash isn't a good option for a baby, grapes are obviously problematic, as is giving a sharp kebab stick to a 1 year old. It seems that you want to give a bag of crisps and a chocolate bar every time you have the child plus squash to drink. I wouldn't be happy with this either. I expect it's your approach to treats (including for bribery) that is leading to your DS having much strict rules and regulations wanting to allow the treats himself. I don't think he trusts your judgement on it at all. I wouldn't either.

Muu · 14/04/2023 00:08

It’s normal to have some requests. Eg I would rather my daughter drinks only water or milk. But there’s a nice way to put it. “If you can’t respect our wishes we will look into alternate childcare” is a shitty way of talking to a grandparent. it’s not just the money they’re saving, their children are having golden time with grandma.

let them use a nursery, cheeky so and sos.

Wetnwindy · 13/04/2023 23:32

saraclara · 13/04/2023 16:57

We would visit my in-laws every six weeks or so, for a weekend. My MIL was the most loving grandma, and she also loved chocolate and spoiling her grandchildren. I'd roll my eyes, but she was such a wonderful person, I kept my frustration under wraps.

Even when the kids were teenagers and we maybe didn't visit quite so often, she'd occasionally post them a little jiffy envelope with a chocolate treat inside.

She died last year, and the four young adult grandchildren did a joint eulogy for her, where they shared their childhood memories of their wonderful grandma. Guess what stories were among those they told with such love? How much she used to spoil them with sweets and chocolate biscuits, and how she'd find the exact kind of chocolate treat that would fit in a jiffy envelope and survive the Royal Mail!

I'm so glad I didn't kick off at the time and issue rules about it. With time comes perspective.

Amen ..100%agree! My children were given grandma treats and they still talk about her with so much love ❤️

saraclara · 13/04/2023 21:36

RosesofAmsterdam · 13/04/2023 20:43

Sounds tricky, but would be solved easily if the morning and afternoon snacks they can pick from are healthy, instead of crisps and chocolate. Surely you care about their health, and teeth?

It's really not the point though, is it? The son and DIL are treating OP abominably. And THEY give their son treats, so it's not about healthy eating. It's about control. They want to be the ones who get the kudos from their kid when he had a biscuit. But grandma isn't allowed.

FFS, son comes to pick him up from OP's house and promptly gives him the snack that OP isn't allowed to! In her house, in front of her! That's some kind of controlling power play.

BigFatLiar · 13/04/2023 21:23

When they were little our girls were looked after by granny if necessary. We never worried about it as she raised me and though I say it myself she did well😀. We now look after the grandchildren as needed and we don't get instructions from the mums unless they're not well. I hope they think we did a good enough job of raising them to trust us with their children.

usernamechanged1 · 13/04/2023 21:08

Granny’s goody cupboard sounds like an absolute dream for a young kid. Or anyone, for that matter. To me, grandparents are there to enjoy their grandkids, to make coming to visit them exciting and associated with bending the rules a bit. It’s a shame your son can’t see that.