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Should Granny be allowed to give Grandchild treats?

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GrandmaNelly · 13/04/2023 14:58

Long time lurker, first time poster. Question is in the heading, but to give a bit of background…
I babysit a grandchild for my DD and a grandchild for my DS. I look after each child 2 days a week. On one day I have both, the other times I have them separate. DS and DDIL did not want grandchild to have treats until he was 18 months. Grandchild is now nearly two. I give both grandchildren the odd treat (crisps, biscuit, chocolate), but DS and DDIL don’t want me to and say they want to give all the treats. I find this difficult when I have both grandchildren together as DD has always allowed treats.
I want to address this but suspect if there is a falling out they will cut all contact and my grandchildren mean everything to me, so I’m scared of that happening. Any advice on how I can approach this or what you would do? Please be kind to an old grandma full of worry.

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jannier · 13/04/2023 16:25

GrandmaNelly · 13/04/2023 15:13

@Goodoccasionallypoor not especially. We aren’t particularly close and I feel as though I was asked to be child care as a last resort. I get lots of telephone calls to tell me the ‘rules’ they want me to follow and of course I oblige. It has been insinuated how lucky I am to be trusted with my grandchild and when I was poorly one week they asked me to do an extra day the next week so I didn’t miss out. DS did say if I give treats they will have to make other arrangements.

I hope you said no to the extra day no matter how much you love it they are walking all over you. My reply would have been I'm sorry I'm still recovering and as you know I already do free childcare for X days between you and your sister.

SunnySaturdayMorning · 13/04/2023 16:25

Proudofitbabe · 13/04/2023 16:23

By doing this you are indicating you cannot be trusted to look after their child

If I found out anyone had knowingly gone against my wishes with my child they would not see that child unsupervised ever again

The trust would be gone. It doesn’t matter how small the issue is, you have demonstrated you are not capable of appropriate childcare

If the wishes are stupid - I.e not letting granny give a biscuit even though the parents do, they should be ignored. Kids can't snitch. So for me that is the answer, it's not a complex moral dilemma.

Exactly - you think they’re stupid, but the parents clearly don’t. So what else do you think is stupid? ERF? Safe sleep? Weaning guidelines?

So you cannot be trusted and are not suitably able to look after a child.

And yes, toddlers can “snitch”. My 2 year old tells me all about her day when she’s been with someone else.

ShonaShoop · 13/04/2023 16:24

Crimblecrumble1990 · 13/04/2023 16:11

They sound very precious. Not necessarily about the treats but in your update.

My MIL has my pre schooler one day a week and it does annoy me that they insist on giving him chocolate magnums 'because he loves them'. Well yes of course he does, but he genuinely loves a frozen yoghurt ice lolly too and would be just as excited to have that. (I realise in a couple of years this probably won't be the case!)

Are they fine with toddler 'snacks' e.g the Ella's kitchen biscotti and the like? They are kind of like treats but not as bad as chocolate.

Send the treats you prefer your child to have and it won’t be a problem. Why should your free childcare stump up for your idea of “nutritious treats” for YOUR child? 🤷🏻‍♀️

pizzaHeart · 13/04/2023 16:24

I suppose the problem is that you are not very close so maybe you are not aware about all things e.g I didn’t give my DD certain things because she couldn’t cope with chewing them ( it’s a part of her disability) and could choke but when I’ve told my mum about this she just said : It’s ok I will be there and will watch her. She didn’t know how serious it might be.
I didn’t want this experience for DD at all so it’s easier for me just to say “no” without explanation (and before anyone asks my Mum never ever did babysitting for me, we live in different countries for a start) And then accept the same approach with other things.

My point is that sometimes not listening just once affects mutual trust. It might be not about treats but maybe in other areas ( even before your DGC was born ) you haven’t realized that they want things to be certain way or criticized their views too much and it’s affected your relationship.

Proudofitbabe · 13/04/2023 16:23

By doing this you are indicating you cannot be trusted to look after their child

If I found out anyone had knowingly gone against my wishes with my child they would not see that child unsupervised ever again

The trust would be gone. It doesn’t matter how small the issue is, you have demonstrated you are not capable of appropriate childcare

If the wishes are stupid - I.e not letting granny give a biscuit even though the parents do, they should be ignored. Kids can't snitch. So for me that is the answer, it's not a complex moral dilemma.

SunnySaturdayMorning · 13/04/2023 16:21

jannier · 13/04/2023 16:20

Sounds like you have a problem with your family/granny/mil

No, my family and my in-laws are brilliant, precisely because they respect my parenting decisions.

SunnySaturdayMorning · 13/04/2023 16:20

Proudofitbabe · 13/04/2023 16:18

A lot of the pleasure for GPs is indulging little ones with the odd treat. Your kids are being ridiculously awkward and OTT, and that's regardless of the enormous childcare favour. I'd never have dreamt of dictating to my mum how to care for young children, she'd have told me to do one.

In your shoes I would continue to give the treats and just not tell them. At nearly 2 the kids can't dob you in, and by the time they can talk maybe the parents will have calmed down!

By doing this you are indicating you cannot be trusted to look after their child.

If I found out anyone had knowingly gone against my wishes with my child they would not see that child unsupervised ever again.

The trust would be gone. It doesn’t matter how small the issue is, you have demonstrated you are not capable of appropriate childcare.

jannier · 13/04/2023 16:20

SunnySaturdayMorning · 13/04/2023 15:23

It’s part of a wider problem.

If granny cannot respect the choices they have made for their child - whether that be something as innocuous as snacks or something as important as car safety - they aren’t suitable to look after said child.

So if granny goes ahead and gives treats because she thinks it’s okay, you cannot trust she won’t go against other parenting decisions they have made because she doesn’t see the issue.

Sounds like you have a problem with your family/granny/mil

Proudofitbabe · 13/04/2023 16:18

A lot of the pleasure for GPs is indulging little ones with the odd treat. Your kids are being ridiculously awkward and OTT, and that's regardless of the enormous childcare favour. I'd never have dreamt of dictating to my mum how to care for young children, she'd have told me to do one.

In your shoes I would continue to give the treats and just not tell them. At nearly 2 the kids can't dob you in, and by the time they can talk maybe the parents will have calmed down!

HappinesDependsOnYou · 13/04/2023 16:17

@ShonaShoop that was a giant leap of assumption. For your information I do provide snack for my child and their grandparents don't provide any childcare. I am talking about when we visit actually. One nan offers to take him out for days but this is voluntary when I am off. The only childcare I have is the nursery I pay for so maybe get all the facts before jumping on someone

SirChenjins · 13/04/2023 16:17

Snowjokes · 13/04/2023 16:12

Just don’t give the treats they don’t want their child to have! Why does it matter if everyone else thinks treats are fine, their view on them is so strong that they’re willing to consider paid childcare instead. So why would you refuse it? All you’re doing is causing an “I know better than you” argument. Find something else to be the “treat” on the day you have both children, or just drop “treat time” altogether.

But they do want their child to have them - they happily give them to him/her on the remaining days at home! They just don’t want granny to give them on the 2 days she has them.

SirChenjins · 13/04/2023 16:15

Goodoccasionallypoor · 13/04/2023 16:11

@Lizzt2007

But it is still imposing a rule in someone else's house, which she said is something she wouldn't dream of doing.

She didn't say, she wouldn't dream of imposing a rule that she didn't also follow.

I took it to mean she wouldn’t impose a different rule in one place when she allows the same thing at home - not allowing screens at home or granny’s house is consistent and presumably doesn’t cause a problem for granny because she’s well aware of the situation. I take your point though.

Beautiful3 · 13/04/2023 16:15

So they're allowed to give treats, but you cannot?! If so, that's bizzare and controlling. I'd ignore them and give a biscuit/crisps. What's the alternative? One child watched the other eat a treat then cries! If they ask, just say it was a small plain biscuit and a few crisps. If they cut all contact over that then they're bat shit crazy.

jannier · 13/04/2023 16:14

I'd still give treats....book, trip to charity shop pick a toy, messy play, sticking and craft, set out their lunch like a picnic....they could have so much fun with you having nanny day as the treat, and no forbidden foods.
Would get up their nose though and they will probably say don't go out, food only at the table etc.

Snowjokes · 13/04/2023 16:12

Just don’t give the treats they don’t want their child to have! Why does it matter if everyone else thinks treats are fine, their view on them is so strong that they’re willing to consider paid childcare instead. So why would you refuse it? All you’re doing is causing an “I know better than you” argument. Find something else to be the “treat” on the day you have both children, or just drop “treat time” altogether.

Chewbecca · 13/04/2023 16:12

Have treats been defined? Do they mean junk, processed food? Or anything sweet? How about cakes you make together? It's an activity I really enjoy with my GC and I think it is fine, it is sugar and butter but not junk, processed food.

Goodoccasionallypoor · 13/04/2023 16:11

@Lizzt2007

But it is still imposing a rule in someone else's house, which she said is something she wouldn't dream of doing.

She didn't say, she wouldn't dream of imposing a rule that she didn't also follow.

Crimblecrumble1990 · 13/04/2023 16:11

They sound very precious. Not necessarily about the treats but in your update.

My MIL has my pre schooler one day a week and it does annoy me that they insist on giving him chocolate magnums 'because he loves them'. Well yes of course he does, but he genuinely loves a frozen yoghurt ice lolly too and would be just as excited to have that. (I realise in a couple of years this probably won't be the case!)

Are they fine with toddler 'snacks' e.g the Ella's kitchen biscotti and the like? They are kind of like treats but not as bad as chocolate.

Dotcheck · 13/04/2023 16:10

SunnySaturdayMorning · 13/04/2023 15:07

Nope. Their child, their choice.

If you can’t respect their decisions for their child then you aren’t suitable to be looking after them.

🙄

Of course it’s their child- but she’s wondering about giving the child a bloody biscuit now and then…

’Not suitable’….. pfft

lunar1 · 13/04/2023 16:10

Personally I think the are out of line, but it's not a hill I'de die on. Id probably make them fruit kebabs to dip in yogurt so it still feels like a treat to them.

MerryMarigold · 13/04/2023 16:10

Sorry, I meant. "It is difficult for me not to give treats when his cousin IS also with me..."

MerryMarigold · 13/04/2023 16:09

Whatever you do, I would be upfront. I would start with: "Practically, it is difficult for me to not give your DS treats when his cousin is not with me. Emotionally, I enjoy giving him a few nice things as that's a Granny's role. So:

  • What treats do you give him ie. What treats are you happy for him to have?
  • This is what I plan to give him when he's at my house for a full day - 2 or 3 of (Handful of crisps/ Cheerios/ 1 chocolate biscuit/ cupcake/ 1 scoop ice cream/ funsize pack smarties etc).

If you don't like it, you are welcome to look for other childcare."

Don't go behind their back but do state what you want to do when you are looking after him - and try to accommodate them WITHIN REASON ie. Some treats but not large amounts.

Wetnwindy · 13/04/2023 16:09

Lastnamedidntstick · 13/04/2023 15:20

Lol.

that’s the parents choice. If they aren’t happy with how grandma looks after the child
for free, they can choose paid childcare.

I am willing to bet they’ll soon compromise when their alternative is to pay £100/week + for 2 days nursery.

if someone is doing you a massive favour providing free Childcare, you don’t get to stipulate how they look after the child. If it’s not up to your standards, pay.

Agree with @Lastnamedidntstick The sense of entititlement and disrespect from posters towards their parents and in lnlaws is absolutely astounding and very sad !
Thank god for my lovely adult children.

Topseyt123 · 13/04/2023 16:07

I think they are being generally unreasonable, and very PFB. However, going against their wishes is not a great idea, tempting though it may be.

Can they not drop off a supply of the type of treats that they give their child so that you can use those? After all, surely it matters not who actually gives the child the treat on any particular day, as long as you are clear what has been given so that they don't double up.

Personally, I think they are bonkers, but saying that won't help you unfortunately.

Screwballs · 13/04/2023 16:05

pizzaHeart · 13/04/2023 16:01

It’s a very wise post! I would follow this advice partly and in the meantime I’d raise the issue that another child is allowed and is there any chance of compromise?

In general I think you should follow his parents lead, I don’t know their arguments but from my experience some grandmas are minimizing the amount of treats and biscuits they are given out, just saying.

I also agree, they'll find something else to hyper focus on soon enough.