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Is your childminder your friend or do you have a business relationship?

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KatyMac · 29/01/2008 21:22

Sometimes I think a lot of childminders problems with parents and also a lot of parents problems with childminders are due to this

I really want to be friends with my parents - I need this emotionally and some of them do to after all I spend time with their little babies/children hugging/kissing and loving them

However it is a mainly business relationship & I often find it difficult to differentiate between business/friendship

How do people balance this?

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mumeeb · 02/02/2008 23:28

Thanks everyone for the reassurance on Friday about my CM. I actually thought my message had disappeared - I didn't realise the discussion had moved onto a second page!

Yorky · 02/02/2008 19:36

That makes sense, thanks ladies.
Quite reassuring that no-one has said don't do that!

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chankins · 01/02/2008 21:54

I know cms who have - some have found it greatm other s quite tricky. I guess you have to negotiate the contract from a strictly business point of view and not think of each other as friends at that point. Once everyone is clear and happy as of what is expected of them, then I see no reason why it cn't work out well with friends.
Saying that, the amount of friends who have said o yeah I'll let you have my baby to mind when I have it and nothing ever comes of it ! I always think now, yeah right, I'll believe it when it happens.

KatyMac · 01/02/2008 21:52

My first mindee was through church

I haven't minded any other friends children however I have lots of new friends now after mining their children

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Yorky · 01/02/2008 21:51

This is interesting - I'm about to start as CM and have had 2 inquiries before advertising, one from a lady I met in the library and we're friendly as both new to the area, another from a lady at church who finds it reassuring that I go to church.
Has anyone found it difficult looking after friends' children?

KatyMac · 01/02/2008 21:49

I invite friends into my house

I invite tradespeople into my house & pay them

The whole I invite people into my house & take money off them is quite hard

Aw kissing the babies is the best bit

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pippylongstockings · 01/02/2008 21:44

I'd prefer it too be friendly but professional.

My CM is great but it is always a tricky one - she is the reverse of the 10 min rule - my DH picks the kids up at 5pm but I will often get home at 5.45 and they are still not home (she lives a 10min walk away) this bugs me as I want to see my kids and my DH just can't seem to say no must dash after 30 min!! Not really her fault though....

As a parent I always want whats best fo the children but do get a little jealous when she kisses them.

chankins · 01/02/2008 21:31

What is annoying is when it is time you are wanting to get your own dc into the bath and bed etc, and the parent is takiing forever to take their child and go, not because they are talking to you however, it is because thye keep telling the child to get ready and the child ignores them, so you get them ready, and so on and on, it takes forever !!

vInTaGeVioLeT · 01/02/2008 21:23

i agree that it is difficult and it's a very fine line - personally i do not want parents thinking it's ok to stay an hour at the end of the day (i work a 10 hour day) and don't offer cups of tea - i want a quick chat to exchange info on how mindee has been then it's coats on and out the door - i have my own kids and enough time is spent working they need their "mummy time"

lots of my mindee's are friends/aquaintaces children and i am friendly with the parents BUT it is my job, so i do maintain a proffessional distance [that makes me sounds really horrible] - however i'd love to socialise outside of work and have a good chinwag!!

KatyMac · 01/02/2008 20:21

I think it's a tricky thing to balance

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rookiemater · 31/01/2008 21:31

I think its important to maintain a slight bit of professional distance, because at the end of the day money is exchanging hands.

Having said that my CM is fab and wonderful and if she did have a major personal problem or health issue I would be happy to be there for her, just as I am sure she would be accomodating around my childcare needs if something happened to me. But I don't need or want to know all about her personal life, I just need to know that she is fully focused when looking after DS just as I am when I am at work.

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LoveMyGirls · 31/01/2008 17:52

I really doubt it's anything you have done mumeeb, I used to find with mums who were very keen to chat to me that I was sometimes a bit less friendly (not because i didn't like them or want to chat) but because I was trying to keep it business like, I can remember one mum i used to have came at 2pm when my dd was asleep and I could have some time on my own before getting dd2 up and dressed and out for the school run, this mum didn't have older children, sometimes I needed to pop to the shops before school run or start the dinner in the slow cooker or have a quick tidy or set up activities for the after school children, I just didn't have that time to sit down for half an hour or I found i was late and rushing which after a few weeks became exhausting.

However I think she should spare the time to talk to you about your son's day though (about 5 to 10 mins is fair enough) so if she doesnt tell you then ask her or ask her to write a daily sheet or a diary just to give you a very rough idea of what he has been doing (i do one for my younger mindees, it has info such as nappies, food, medicine, sleeps etc)

One thing I urge parents not to do is tell me all their problems, especially money troubles as it makes me feel awkward when receiving my payment and that's unfair imo. I talk about the children (mine and theirs) how they play together development etc I don't tend to talk about nights out etc though i was very drunk the other week and bumped into one of the mums I felt awful but I wasn't on duty and I should feel free to let my hair down now and again after all I'm only human I said hello to her introduced her to my dp and left, we didn't have a drink togetehr or a dance that would have been a bit too friendly imo.

mumeeb · 31/01/2008 15:39

Hi -this is my first visit to Mumsnet, hoping for some good advice. My son recently started at his childminder. I've been trying to build up a friendly relationship with her but she doesn't seem to want this and hardly tells me anything about my son's day. She seemed lovely when we went to meet her so I don't know if it's something I've done.

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LoveMyGirls · 31/01/2008 14:08

Im friendly but I dont socialise with my mindees parents, i'll invite them in for a cuppa on the rare occasion but tahts it and i'd never do that after 5pm because I have other mindees and parents collecting and tbh i've been working since 7am and im not in the mood for a chat, nothing nasty just not something I do.

ROSEgarden · 31/01/2008 10:44

i thought i was friends with a mum at school, eventually i started looking after one or both of her dd's, presents for xmas/birthdays etc etc..big even came up in their life..no invite..oh well, never mind..now today mum has completely kicked off over something my dd is doing(school suggestion) as her dd isnt doing it!!...FGS...Strictly business for me from now on!

PippiCalzelunghe · 31/01/2008 08:45

I think the best is to be honest. My previoius childminder pretended to be friends with us (being all smiley smiley and inviting me to go to the gym with her or out etc) when infact they were only interested in a business relationship and could not stand us - many of the parents and kids (which was quite sad to find out).
with the new one (fab btw) we are not friends (we are not going out for a meal now or will be once dd is not going there anymore) but we are friendly and when we can/feel like it we have a cuppa or a chat, when we had a rough day or cannot be bothered or whatever I just pick DD and go.

it is a fine line but one should expect friendliness not friendship (if that happens better I guess).

southernbelle77 · 31/01/2008 08:23

The parents of my mindees are a bit of both I think. They are first and foremost customers and we have a business relationship, but I do try and be friendly (wouldn't say quite friends but getting there!) with them also. I have juts invited two of them to a cookery party I am having so that is socialising with them to a degree I suppose!

BoysAreLikeDogs · 30/01/2008 23:18

MLP, start a thread in CM and Nannies, and we'll have a go for you

mylittlepudding · 30/01/2008 16:42

My dd starts full time with a CM next week, in a new area where I know nobody. What, wise ladies on this thread, would you want from a mum like me?!

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MaureenMLove · 29/01/2008 22:23

All mine conveniently go home at different times, so I don't mind letting them in. The schoolies however, are ready as soon as I see the car pull up. Nothing to discuss, so no need to come in. Baby mindee mums do come in, but purely for a quick run down on the day, whilst putting coats on. Today, of course, we had to sign the accident book, and I had to sound off about the incident, so she was a little longer!

pepperpots · 29/01/2008 22:21

CM's DD has her moments and if she is naughty she is disciplined to what i deem to be fair and exactly how I would if it was my DS's. This makes me comfortable knowing how my children are being treated and have found since they have been going to her they are much more respondant to 'the rules'
Also she helped toilet train my 3yr DS when i couldn't do it alone