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My Nanny thought her salary was net and not gross so now she wants a rise

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PanickyAnniky · 25/01/2008 22:54

I've just hired a Nanny to look after 8 month old DD and she's just finished her 3rd week with us. I stated 400 pounds per week in the advert, but my Nanny has just said that she hadn't realised she would have to pay tax etc on that money and that she wants me to give her 400 pounds after tax. I suppose I should have said 400 gross for super clarity, but with every job I have ever gone for myself I've always assumed the salary was gross and that I would have to pay tax. Has anyone else come across this and if so, what did they do?

My Nanny is working 9am-7pm Mon-Fri, so she is doing long days, but all this was clearly gone through in the interview. I am also offering 28 holiday days per year, 8 pound an hour for extra time (babysitting, weekends etc) and a 1000 bonus after a year. Does this sound reasonable?

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florenceuk · 25/01/2008 23:24

I pay £80p/day net for similar hours - in London. This was around the going rate about a year ago.

1dilemma · 25/01/2008 23:23

nannynick I think your employers have a great deal!I just wonder sometimes whether nannies say 'I want £10/hr' and employers say 'net or gross' and the nanny fires back net thinking if they asked they must be expecting to pay more £!
Just a thought. I would say hatwoman is about right from what we've been quoted.

hatwoman · 25/01/2008 23:17

ours is on about £10 gross per hour / £7.90 net (London). including her bonus yours works out at about £8.40 gross - depends on where you are and her experience and qualifications - and, ultimately, whether she's willing to accept it, as to whether it's reasonable or not.

nannynick · 25/01/2008 23:17

At 400 gross per week your nanny is on a better hourly rate than I get - and I do the same number of hours per week, and care for 3 children (sometimes 4, eldest is at boarding school). {hmm, perhaps time to look for a better paid job}

Salary should be in the contract... does it say £400 per week gross there?

As a nanny, I work in Gross terms... but I may be unusual in that, as lots of nanny agencies still advertise jobs with NET rates.

The salary should have been discussed at some point, it no doubt was. But there seems to be a miss communication somewhere. What are your options? Refuse the payrise - nanny may leave. Give the payrise - may not be possible, as you had budgeted for 400 gross.
When you interviewed, were there other suitable candidates... if your nanny was to leave, could you get in touch with them to see if they want the job?

frannikin · 25/01/2008 23:14

10 hour days is fairly normal for a nanny. So £400 is about £8 gross.

Discussing wages is so difficult, because it depends on location, age and experience of nanny, experience of sole charge the same age as your DCs, qualified or not, driver or not, any additional benefits you're offering.

You offered the job on the wage you stated and she took it. If it's not stated as net in contract then it's presumed to be gross.

DiamandaGalas · 25/01/2008 23:10

our nanny does - 8 till 8 plus one babysitting a week

400 net for her - we pay on top her tax and ni

We are in sunny London.

frannikin · 25/01/2008 23:09

There was an interesting thread about the net/gross debate.

Ultimately what's said in the contract goes (and that should be gross) so it's really your nanny's lookout.

hatwoman · 25/01/2008 23:08

it's very common practice for nanny jobs to be advertised as net so not suprising that she made this assumption. but it should have been explicit in her contract.

not sure how you'll get round this one - you'll just have to reach some amicable agreement.

you do realise that it is the employer's responsibility to pay the tax and ni? as an amployer you have to pay your employee their net salary and the inland revenue the tax and ni. as far as the inland revenue are concerned the amount you give her is net - and they will pursue you not her for any tax.

LadyMuck · 25/01/2008 23:08

What does her contract say? Do you want to keep her at a higher rate? 9-7 is not long for London nanny hours ime.

1dilemma · 25/01/2008 23:06

£8/hr whareabouts are you if in London that would be cheap gross net not really cheap, what does contract say?
Could you nannyshare to bring down costs?

Neverenough · 25/01/2008 23:03

PA I hope you are a squillionaire then to pay that much!
That's over £30 -sorry but that's just not on. My Practice Nurses and receptionists would love to earn that much.

PeachesMcLean · 25/01/2008 23:02

Why on earth should nanny jobs be quoted net? I've never heard of that elsewhere. Partly cos it depends on your situation as to how much you're taxed.

HarrietTheSpy · 25/01/2008 23:00

That is a significant difference in pay - blimey! Poor you.

I'm not surprised you made those assumptions - esp if it's your first nanny - but nanny jobs do tend to be quoted net it seems.

What does her contract say? If she just didn't read it properly...well, that's her look out.

Neverenough · 25/01/2008 23:00

Found calculator-that's a good rate imo.Well above the maximum pay for simplified deduction scheme.
Don't forget your DD will be asleep a lot of the time!
Do you do her tax and NI for her or pay her gross?

DiamandaGalas · 25/01/2008 22:58

400 NET is a fair wage plus you pay the tax/ ni

it should come to 580 GROSS

Neverenough · 25/01/2008 22:57

Where do you live? Sounds reasonable to me but can't find my calculator to work out the monthly rate. Have you given her a contract? Agree assumption is gross for me but don't know about nannies-mine started on an hourly rate.