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Nannying = farming out your child - big mistake?

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WorkingMumD · 24/05/2022 15:26

Hi, wanted some views. When I was in my 30s I was in London in a good job and so when I gave birth it seemed like the right thing to get a nanny to look after my daughter. Everyone did it! And it didn't seem weird. Now 17 years later, having talked to my daughter about it, I feel like it's the biggest mistake ever made.
She was traumatised by not having me around and couldn't tell me as she was so young and didn't want to upset her mummy. After 2.5 years of using a nanny, I felt it was wrong and so I did give up my job and we moved somewhere quieter and cheaper so I could be at home more with her, but the damage was done. She had a very very difficult teenage phase where we got on incredibly badly and now is able to say it tracks back to because she felt unwanted and unhappy when younger. She's now raised this a number of times, with me, doctors and mental health professionals. I'm quite devastated by it on a personal level as her dad and I worked so hard to try to give her a good, loving stable family home with everything she wanted - and she always seemed happy. I've told her I regret it, but I did change everything for her and the only way to put it right is by not doing it for her own children and by learning from it. I just wondered if anyone else had a similar experience? And/or what you would advise?

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Skinnermarink · 24/05/2022 17:29

Mumwantingtogetitright · 24/05/2022 17:26

Frankly, I'd probably cry all day if I had to spend it with someone so nasty and judgmental!!

Exactly, with all the feelings I have about DS starting nursery next month- to think a professional caring for him could be judging me and regards me as a shit mum for putting him in- I mean Jesus Christ.

LowlandLucky · 24/05/2022 17:27

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 24/05/2022 17:23

@LowlandLucky what bullshit are you chatting. Babies and toddlers cry when separated from their main caregiver - yes, we know. They don't cry all day though, do they? And clearly you're not following them along their lives to see them grow up into completely normally well-adjusted children let alone teens and adults.

Or, if we're giving masses amounts of credence to anecdata, then I can tell you my twins went to nursery from 8 months to pre-school and don't remember it at all. I think I win - twins AND nursery?!

Yes, some do cry all day but it if it makes you happier thinking children would rather be in nursery then i hope it works for you.

Mumwantingtogetitright · 24/05/2022 17:26

Skinnermarink · 24/05/2022 17:25

Because despite having a career in childcare you don’t support the need for childcare? And it’s the mothers you blame? Dads get a free pass? And you think all the poor little kiddies are desperately unhappy in a settling that isn’t their own home?

you are possibly in the wrong area of work.

Frankly, I'd probably cry all day if I had to spend it with someone so nasty and judgmental!!

AxolotlEars · 24/05/2022 17:25

I think anything is possible. Examples of similarities in situations with different outcomes neither proves or disproves anything in this situation. Many people perceive what has happened to them in different ways. Having worked with people who have experienced trauma I know that many things can impact a person even things before they are verbal. It would probably really helpful for her and you if she could have some sort therapy

Skinnermarink · 24/05/2022 17:25

LowlandLucky · 24/05/2022 17:16

What in my post is unprofessional ?

Because despite having a career in childcare you don’t support the need for childcare? And it’s the mothers you blame? Dads get a free pass? And you think all the poor little kiddies are desperately unhappy in a settling that isn’t their own home?

you are possibly in the wrong area of work.

ChiefWiggumsBoy · 24/05/2022 17:23

@LowlandLucky what bullshit are you chatting. Babies and toddlers cry when separated from their main caregiver - yes, we know. They don't cry all day though, do they? And clearly you're not following them along their lives to see them grow up into completely normally well-adjusted children let alone teens and adults.

Or, if we're giving masses amounts of credence to anecdata, then I can tell you my twins went to nursery from 8 months to pre-school and don't remember it at all. I think I win - twins AND nursery?!

Mumwantingtogetitright · 24/05/2022 17:21

It's actually other kids mums who said her early years sound 'messed up' and 'not the way to bring a child up' (referring to nannies).

Right, so some judgemental parents have put the idea into your dd's head that she had a messed up childhood, she has latched onto it and is now assuming that it's the cause of her depression. And you're buying into that?

londonadviceplease · 24/05/2022 17:21

I don't know anyone who had a lot of memories pre 2. I think she sounds very entitled.

89979654433g · 24/05/2022 17:18

I cant believe she remembers anything from when she was 2.5. One of mine is 5 and they cant remember being 2.5

She might have issues, your relationship might have issues - but its not because she can remember being 2.5 years old and missing you

plus where's her dad in all of this?

WorkingMumD · 24/05/2022 17:16

Hi all - thanks for your supportive comments. To address your points - my daughter did have a really good decent nanny mainly (then we had one briefly who was a bit average) with her cousin who was the same age. She was nannied from age 7 months to 4 years old. And yes, we did it as it seemed a gold standard way to care for her. Her dad is great but has a massive job, is away a lot, and I've always had to be the one there, doing everything. It's actually other kids mums who said her early years sound 'messed up' and 'not the way to bring a child up' (referring to nannies). She has got learning difficulties which I've worked on tirelessly to resolve or support since we spotted them and she did have depression etc like most teen girls these days - at which I've thrown experts and counsellors etc, on top of talking to her as much as poss. She is of course self centred as all teenagers can be: she is trying to find her way and who she is. But she seems to really believe the nanny experience made her very unhappy at the time. I do feel guilty (now) about using a nanny! But it was a solution and privilege I was very lucky to be able to afford at the time. She, on the other hand, is embarrassed about the privileges she now has. The joy of teenagers! Thanks for any other insights all of you!

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LowlandLucky · 24/05/2022 17:16

Skinnermarink · 24/05/2022 16:57

I also hope I would never come across you as a childcare worker, @LowlandLucky as you sound deeply unprofessional.

What in my post is unprofessional ?

Mumwantingtogetitright · 24/05/2022 17:09

People are dismissing it because there is a lot about the OP that doesn't ring true.

Yes, there are no doubt awful childcare settings like the one that @LowlandLucky worked at, and I'm sure that there are awful abusive nannies, too. Some children may well be left with lasting damage as a result. Perhaps the OP did indeed employ an abusive nanny, and that's why she had doubts about her dd's wellbeing and quit her job etc. It's possible, though it seems somewhat unlikely as the OP said that the child always seemed happy and showed no apparent signs of trauma until her teenage years.

What is not believable is that the child has suddenly developed problems in her teenage years and somehow remembers being unable to tell her mother how traumatised she was because she didn't want to upset her. I don't think even the most advanced of 2yos have thought processes that work like that, let alone memories of those thought processes many years later. Sorry, but I just don't buy it.

This smacks of a wily teen having found a way of pressing her mum's buttons to get own advantage or of an OP with a clear agenda that isn't what it purports to be. If the OP doesn't come back soon, I'm going with the latter.

WimpoleHat · 24/05/2022 17:08

My friend could’ve written your post, although she’s older (her DD is in her 40s). And they have a very strained relationship (despite the fact that friend did loads to help her DD, both financially and providing a huge amount of childcare). My friend tearfully told me one day “it’s because I worked” - and my questions were the same as many on here. Why isn’t she resentful of her father? Doesn’t she realise that that money paid for her to go to private school, live in a lovely house etc? But in the end, it probably isn’t rational…..and there’s not much you can do about it after the event. You made what you thought was the best decision for your family at the time. You only get one “go”, so your DD actually has no idea how life would’ve been otherwise, so she can’t just assume it would’ve been better. There’d have been downsides to that decision too - less money as the obvious one. You called it how you saw it at the time and with the information you had. And that’s all any of us can do. If your DD wants to make different decisions for her own family, that’s up to her. Don’t be eaten up by regret - it’s corrosive.

sunscreenandsaltwater · 24/05/2022 17:07

@LowlandLucky

So you'd be out of a job if we all suddenly gave up work and spent every day with our kids (whilst not being able to afford food / heating / a home).

You're a very unkind and really quite dim person.

Mariposista · 24/05/2022 17:05

This is utter rubbish and extremely manipulating. I'm sorry but thousands of children are cared for by nannies, nurseries, grandparents or childminders. It's life. And it teaches them that mummy doesn't exist purely to pander to their needs, and they THEY are not the centre of the universe.
I say this as the child of a wonderful working single mum, who taught me the values of family time, and give and take.

DogOnBlanket · 24/05/2022 17:04

Your daughter is full of bullshit, not to mention entitled.

MrsTerryPratchett · 24/05/2022 17:04

Chakraleaf · 24/05/2022 16:58

I'm also shocked how easily people dismiss this

Because it's clearly bollocks. For a number of reasons.

LowlandLucky · 24/05/2022 16:59

I do understand why both parents now have to work. Many years ago when full daycare became common most women rushed to work, this meant couples could borrow more and more money, they could offer more for a house meaning most families with SAHM were priced out of the market. This meant the majority of women had no choice but to go to work full time and the property market got out of hand. We are now reaping what we sowed

Skinnermarink · 24/05/2022 16:59

Does she feel the same about being ‘farmed out’ age four to go to school?

Chakraleaf · 24/05/2022 16:58

I'm also shocked how easily people dismiss this

Chakraleaf · 24/05/2022 16:57

I think her thoughts are entirely valid but that she can't project this on you. You did your best you could do at the time.

Skinnermarink · 24/05/2022 16:57

I also hope I would never come across you as a childcare worker, @LowlandLucky as you sound deeply unprofessional.

Skinnermarink · 24/05/2022 16:53

LowlandLucky · 24/05/2022 16:51

I am amazed how many on here are dismissing this young adults feelings, is that because she might have touched a nerve in some posters. You ask why she doesn't blame her Father, maybe because small children need their Mothers, no matter what you say to convince yourself that Nursery is great for children, the fact is that it isn't. Having worked in childcare for years and having comforted many children that have been besides themselves because they want their "mummy"( never their Daddy) i can assure you it is an awful thing for a child to go through. The eventually stop crying every day because the realise that they will be left no matter what.

No matter what? No matter that both parents really now need to go to work to earn an income to keep most households afloat? You do realise that’s why the vast majority of people use childcare?

ChocolateHippo · 24/05/2022 16:53

I wouldn't be taking this particularly seriously in your position. I would tell her that you're sorry she feels this way but you did what you thought was best for her and the family at the time. And that, now she is almost an adult, it's up to her to make a success or failure of her life.

LowlandLucky · 24/05/2022 16:51

I am amazed how many on here are dismissing this young adults feelings, is that because she might have touched a nerve in some posters. You ask why she doesn't blame her Father, maybe because small children need their Mothers, no matter what you say to convince yourself that Nursery is great for children, the fact is that it isn't. Having worked in childcare for years and having comforted many children that have been besides themselves because they want their "mummy"( never their Daddy) i can assure you it is an awful thing for a child to go through. The eventually stop crying every day because the realise that they will be left no matter what.