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Nappy changes leading to bankrupcy

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BigNoseBaby · 25/04/2022 02:28

We have a new 2 week old.

She wouldn't finish her bottle and was losing weight so we decreased the amount and increased the feed times to 8.

This worked (hurrah!) but there is another issue. Basically she just poops and pees endlessly and it's causing me intense frustration. I'm looking for help.

The pattern goes like this.

  1. Check her nappy and change her
  2. Feed and burp
  3. Nappy check - usually a poo or at least a wee.
  4. Change nappy and swaddle
  5. Oh she pee'd again when we put the new nappy on.
  6. Change nappy and swaddle
  7. Oh she pooped again in the new nappy.
  8. Change nappy and swaddle.
  9. She is drifting off to sleep (little angel)
10. Oh no! Crying again, what's wrong? 11. Oh she peed again - new nappy.

Etc etc

I'm getting through between 4-5 nappies every feed! She feeds 8 times a day. This is unsustainable. I dunno what to do. I tried putting her on an absorbent matt and moving her around after every incident. It worked great but! BUT! She's not swaddled and so can't go to sleep.

I don't want to leave her in a dirty nappy (she cries anyway) but at the moment she literally seems to time her next bowel movement for the second we get a new nappy on. I'm at my wits end!

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silverbubbles · 25/04/2022 10:04

Another idea for you - if she poos a lot You could always stick a nappy liner (the type you use with a reusable nappy) in the nappy. You could then remove the liner and poo and reuse the nappy....

2KidsNoTime · 25/04/2022 10:02

A few things stood out to me:

"She wasn't finishing bottle" - this is totally normal. None of mine finished or drained bottles. We don't eat the exact amount each meal either do we? It's fine for baby to pace itself and decide to eat a smaller amount for one feed and a bigger amount for the next. A BF baby would be doing this without mum really knowing it, for example.

Please stop changing for every wee. This is absolutely not necessary at all. I only really change for a poo nappy or if the nappy is really really full with wee. If you're using decent nappies (and even cheap supermarket/Aldi nappies are really very good these days) then they are very efficient at soaking up the liquid so that the layer which touches baby's bum is actually quite dry to touch. There is no need to keep constantly doing nappy checks - you'll know when its time to change baby as they will stink!

No need to change straight after a poo. Give a few mins as often more arrives!

For nappy rash - yellow metanium cream is the best. A thin layer, let it dry a bit. Then cover with sudacrem in a thick layer all over.

If baby is crying lots around feed time and fussing, then at 2wks old this is actually quite common and is likely wind. Lots of time burping baby and if necessary use Infacol before feeding as this will really help produce some big burps and make baby more comfy.

EmeraldSpo · 25/04/2022 09:59

It sounds like the rash could be caused by the frequent nappy changes? As long as the nappy isn't absolutely heaving with wee and you've got barrier cream on I'd cut back. The more you wet and wipe the area the more it will irritate it

britneyisfree · 25/04/2022 09:58

Don't use pampers.

Buy eco by natty and use water wipes until she's a little older.

Hallyup89 · 25/04/2022 09:55

The blue lines are there because it's so difficult to tell if a newborn has done a wee due to the nappy being so dry afterwards! There is zero need to change her after one wee.

I'd leave her in a dirty nappy for a few minutes too, as sometimes it takes them a while to finish pooing. Make sure she's finished before changing her.

CoralPaperweight · 25/04/2022 09:50

I would monitor your DD for lactose intolerance. My DS despite feeding a lot didn't pile on weight like the other babies and we were put under a lot of pressure re his weight gain / weekly weighings for eg. He liked to feed little and often and we ended up doing combo feeding. He wasn't a good sleeper and the only way would go to sleep was lying on me and he wanted lots of cuddles. He had a lot of wind generally, would arch his back a lot after feeding.

Not one HCP mentioned the possibility of lactose intolerance despite knowing all of the above and at age 5-6 months after an illness he seemed to be pooing constantly; sometimes while feeding. He got bad nappy rash and the yellow metoniam cream was a godsend. For weeks we were told it was a viral infection but eventually my GP really listened and said cut out dairy if you are breastfeeding and try this lactofree formula. My god, the difference - within 2/3 days, down from 8-10 poos a day to 2-3, nappy rash gone. I think the illness tipped him over the edge but he had been struggling with lactose for a while. I wish there was more awareness about lactose intolerance, as it is less extreme than cows milk protein allergic so more easily missed

chubbachub · 25/04/2022 09:45

She probably cries and fusses when she has done a small wee as she is used to you changing her instantly? Definitely ignore the blue line and change when it feels full/squishy or just for a poo

If she has nappy rash definitely try to clear it asap as urine may sting it - hence the fussing maybe? Yellow metanium cream is a good one and plenty of bare bum time.

TurquoiseSwirl · 25/04/2022 09:45

The nappy rash could be due to wiping and changing too often.
wet wipes are the devil, next time you have a cold, use them to wipe your nose and they sting like fuck. All the toddlers running away when they have their face wipes is because it genuinely hurts! Even the gently ones.
it sounds like you’ve got a good GP etc looking into CMPA which sounds possible.

but mainly, congratulations and you’re being a great mum to be checking so much, you’re doing great!

WulyJmpr · 25/04/2022 09:43

Are you drying her bottom completely with a muslin or similar and cleaning it? This is the best way of preventing nappy rash.

NatriumChloride · 25/04/2022 09:20

420Bruh · 25/04/2022 02:38

The blue line is a scam. Nappies hold loads.

It’s not a scam. It just shows you the baby has weed. It doesn’t tell you to change the nappy.

Feckingfeck · 25/04/2022 09:15

Just a thought… DS had nappy rash with one particular brand of nappy, have you considered changing see if that helps?

Squellyolwelly · 25/04/2022 09:10

We were using sudocrem for ages with my little boy, but it stopped working for nappy rash after a while. The only thing that’s helped since is the yellow metanium. Helps every time!

ZenNudist · 25/04/2022 09:07

This is a bit like wearing a sanitary towel and changing it as soon as you see blood (sorry for the analogy!) . The nappy is designed to absorb wee. Change for a poo or when it's full of wee.

girlmom21 · 25/04/2022 09:06

You should be mimicking breastfeeding as far as possible.

All babies are different. There's no 'should be' with regards to bottles, formula, feeding times or quantities.

thebeespyjamas · 25/04/2022 09:03

Do you do paced feeding?

You should be mimicking breastfeeding as far as possible. Look for a bottle called Mimjumi which has a tip like a nipple and the baby's natural suck brings the milk as it would from the breast.

Normal bottles with formula will feed too quickly and stretch the stomach.

This is a fraction of what I learned when I did official breastfeeding training. I implemented it with mine as she couldn't latch until 3.5 months and I topped up formula feeds. I pace fed because otherwise it could have damaged her gut.

Look up paced feeding because the baby could be pooing too much as they are overfull.

TabbyMcTatBuskersCat · 25/04/2022 08:55

i used grape seed oil on my youngest. It cleared up her nappy rash and she never got it again. I just used to apply if every change.

BertieBotts · 25/04/2022 08:53

gamerchick · 25/04/2022 05:44

I'm thought you weren't supposed to concentrate feeds? Or has that changed since I looked at formula?

You aren't, but I haven't seen that OP is saying she has?

BertieBotts · 25/04/2022 08:50

The blue line doesn't mean it needs changing, it just helps you see whether the nappy is actually wet. Disposable nappies are so absorbent that you can't always tell. You're using it for something different than intended!

We change every 2-4 hours and only sooner if there is a poo or a leak. You might want to stick closer to 2 if there are rashes. I think we did 2 hourly during the day when he was tiny.

Nappy free time, and making sure you pat the bum dry e.g. with a muslin, or let it air dry after wiping is important to help prevent nappy rash.

Buy small packs of different brand nappies to try them all out and see what shape fits your baby best and what agrees (or not) with their skin, then stick with the cheapest that works. We tend to use Pampers at night because they are used for longer, and own-brand ones in the day because they are cheaper and fine.

Duracellbunnywannabe · 25/04/2022 08:41

BigNoseBaby · 25/04/2022 02:42

I'll just add as a note she tends to do a little poo, then 10 minutes later more poo. She poos at least once after a feed. The doctor is concerned she might be lactose intolerant.

Lactose intolerance is incredibly unlikely. She is much more likely to have cmpa. If you are bf cut out dairy and if your ff you need a dairy free formula from the GP.

Calmdown14 · 25/04/2022 08:39

Sorry this made me laugh but we've all been there!

I had a pooper. Things I found helpful:

Once old enough for a gro bag, it makes things easier. He pooped after every feed so I learned that changing him in hope of settling after a feed was pointless. Instead I became expert at changing him inside his gro bag. Flip open the end, use a travel mat, they stay cosy and are less disturbed.

My husband accidentally bought hungry baby milk and that made a big difference. Still very regular but less explosive but this is only something you should consider once la rose intolerance is checked. It is known to bung them up a bit and my son needed that. I once had to change him three times in a 45 minute music class!

Buy cheaper nappies. Aldi mamia are brilliant and we liked Asda little angels too. Even if pampers hold more (and I don't think they do) it doesn't matter when it's only on a few hours.

The yellow cream called something like metanium is miles better for nappy rash than sudomcream.

At least it's warmer weather. Having a pooper is worse when you've put on five layers and a snow suit!

My second child only went every other day. I was most confused!

Lalliella · 25/04/2022 08:24

If she’s sore and you’re using wipes, try cleaning her with damp cotton wool instead, it’s gentler.

elbea · 25/04/2022 08:13

When mine were this old I used folded muslins with a nappy cover. Muslins just went in the wash, saved a load of money. Now they are older I use disposable because we don’t use so many in a day!

5zeds · 25/04/2022 08:00

Bucking by the trend here. I changed for every wee/poo. For me that’s normal. You can cut down on costa massively by using washable nappies (that’s what those Muslim squares are!). As she gets older you can move into Terry nappies that are more absorbent.

you need,
a roll of liners (semi disposable so wash for a pee bin for a poo if you are me)
some nappies (tons of options)
a bucket with a lid
a bottle of tea tree oil
nappy covers (fleece are best and they don’t get changed unless dirty)

I just washed them in the evening. To be honest they went very dirty because the poop goes on the liner.

olderthanyouthink · 25/04/2022 07:52

Google Elimination Communication. Pooing when they eat is really normal, I fed my son with his bum on a potty and that saved a nappy change for that poo AND going on the potty meant he got it all out in one go but if he went in his nappy there would be 2/3 poos an hour or so apart. The more squat like position is better for pooing. Also pottying at bed time meant he didn't poo at night which was great.

Might help with the nappy rash too because poo wouldn't be going all over her bum and irritating the skin.

And no it's not bad for them, a lot of the world practices similar and they don't have bowel problems, it's a modern thing to train a baby to pee in a nappy. And no my 8 month old is my toilet trained, I bed he's about to poo in his nappy in fact.

RealBecca · 25/04/2022 07:45

Agreee no need to change for every wee, especially if using a barrier cream.

Nappy rash cleared up for my little one when I tried reusables. I also find cloth pads are more breathable. Not preaching, just genuinely think there might be something in it x