Full time live in nanny ..inc nights

Op can you work ltft? The childcare costs are likely to be so high that you won't be financially better off working full time. Does your hospital have a nursery?

In order to keep the job attractive when we advertising, can you use family for weekend and overnight childcare, and just use the nanny as a back up?

Please don't scrimp on the pay offered . You are asking for an unusual job pattern and money would be one way to make it more attractive.
I was live in Nanny for years. If you are already a member of the household, the returning home factor is gone. And baby change their sleep patterns , so a free evening is possible, just being a presence in the home. Yes , it may be expensive, but it won't be forever. Good quality childcare will enable you to progress in your career.

[quote whysoserious123]@busyeatingbiscuits

How much do you charge per week?

Between 2017 - 2019 I charged 380 per week, live in. I paid no bills of course had my petrol paid for (when using the car for the child) , allowed whatever food I wanted and had a my phone contract paid for. [/quote]
I'm employed not self-employed so I don't charge anything. I'm paid a salary.

All employees must be paid at least minimum wage though. That's a legal requirement.
If an employer is only paying minimum wage, they can deduct £60 a week from that for accommodation in a live-in job.
Providing food is absolutely standard for nanny roles.

I earn quite a bit over minimum wage now as have a lot of experience and have a higher level qualification.

I agree with

• you need someone live in
• speak to an agency (try Eden) to get an idea of what is realistic and is going to make the role attractive
• but also advertise on childcare.co.uk
• Offer good salary and perks (eg use of car, good annual leave if you can)
• Be prepared for nannies to leave and you need to find a replacement quite often
• You will also need a cleaner ideally one who does laundry too, unless nanny is happy to

Honestly though if moving in with your parents is an option I would take it, for the first year of being back to work at least. I’m not suggesting they do all childcare, you could use nanny or nursery for “normal” working hours and you or GPs cover the rest.

@busyeatingbiscuits

How much do you charge per week?

Between 2017 - 2019 I charged 380 per week, live in. I paid no bills of course had my petrol paid for (when using the car for the child) , allowed whatever food I wanted and had a my phone contract paid for.

I think it's perfectly do-able too. (I live in Beaconsfield, S. Bucks).

Contract for 48hrs flexibly over 5 days - that's not unusual for a F/T nanny contract. You then let them know in advance which days they're working. I honestly do not think you'll have a problem recruiting. Bear in mind though that you're also an employer and responsible for employers NI and pension.

Have a look here for the extra costs
www.nannytax.co.uk/gross-to-net-salary-calculator

The only issue I think you might have is that it will wipe out your entire salary......

Like any job, I think it's perfectly do-able as long as you are absolutely transparent about the full requirement and the remuneration reflects the anti social hours etc

It would probably help to speak to a nanny agency who will be much better placed to advise you on pay rates etc

Khaa- north or south? I'm in Bedford.

And I agree about childcare.co.uk. You will easily get someone with a nursery nurse qualification.

Norland Nannies are not the norm. Although the requirements have been relaxed, Norland Nannies were traditionally young women from aristocratic families who did not have enough money to support them. Nowdays training as a Norland Nanny is more open in theory, but the cost of training fees is £15,276 plus living costs. This outrageously expensive cost means it is not open to most people.

Your typical nanny is not Norland trained and frankly I don't rate the training anyway. It is about cache, nothing more.

Your typical nanny earns far less, and it is frankly a tough job with high expectations from the parents, long hours, and very little support.

So you need a nanny fir just over 12hrs a day four days a week

Then need over night one night every 2 weeks

Plus then weekend shifts

I would look for a nanny whether live in or out, tho obv happy to start work early and stay over once a fortnight

Then another to cover weekends or extra hours that your parents can’t cover

Obv this will cost

When I was looking for a live-in Nanny/Housekeeper, ostensibly full-time Monday-Friday, but really only for working 7.30-9.30am and 3-6pm as DC in school/nursery. I was going to offer £28-34k salary plus accommodation and food, phone, travel card and use of car. Given the unsociable hours you need, you'll probably have to offer more like £35-40k plus all the benefits.

I was inundated with responses from potential nannies using the website childcare.co.uk, so you may want to try on there. They have the nannies qualifications, DBS and reviews/references from parents as well as pictures of the nannies, and you can interview them.

I never actually got as far as employing someone, as I discovered breakfast club and after school club (never knew they existed before!), but if I needed a nanny in future, I'd definitely look there again.

If you work 24/5, 24/6, 24/7 of course all the hours count as working and are used to calculate holiday.

I concede there are some standard 60 hour live in jobs that are offering up to £60k but surely you know these are pretty unusual and certainly not a normal wage for a live in nanny?

I hope you aren't in nanny recruitment if you're happy to suggest racial discrimination when hiring

@busyeatingbiscuits you said "I don't think I have ever seen a live in nanny role at £60+k - if you have seen some adverts with that kind of a salary please link to them." and I did. The fact that something is outside your experience doesn't mean it doesn't exist. I also personally know nannies working on that salary and more (the highest paid one I know in the UK is on £75k), and I've hired nannies at around £60k myself (for clients). An experienced Norland nanny with good references can expect to make that sort of salary.

As for quibbling about some of the roles I linked being 24-hours - this is standard on that sort of pay, but it doesn't count as "working" 24 hours a day (when calculating holiday etc). You can be sure that any nanny able to command these sorts of salaries will be able to get children into a good routine and have them in bed early and sleeping through the night! If they are ill or have a bad dream, nanny gets up with them, but those are exceptions.

@khaa2091 you can hire someone to do anything, childcare or otherwise, if you are able to pay for it. But I'm not sure how you will afford the help you need as a single earner in the NHS, especially as you'll probably want a housekeeper as well, or someone happy to do both. I would suggest trying to find a Filipina lady to live in and take care of the baby and the house as they are generally more flexible about doing housework and laundry than European nannies, but paying a fair wage still won't leave you much for mortgage and bills! Maybe if you don't mind nanny living in your house full-time you could rent out or airbnb your annexe via an agency to make some extra cash...

Would one really well qualified live in Nanny plus an assistant part time person doing child care work? The main, sole care qualified nanny could help working out rotas. A flexible but reliable older woman might like a part time job like that. If you could find someone like that they could be used as relief nanny to give your full time nanny a day off. I would contact a reputable nanny agency and ask them what hours a live in would be prepared to do. How much extra for sole charge overnight ext. I do think though that a full time fully qualified live in with a part time 'mother help' then family back up might work

Live in nanny £350 - £500 per week in london

Prices will be less in other parts of the country

Choose wisely babies are not babies for long

You can have a live-in nanny for far less than some people here are saying. But be realistic.
You have to be prepared for the fact though that the kids will spend so much time with her that they will form a close bond. I don't say this to be negative, but I have seen quite a few parents get rid of their nanny and get a less good one (they usually say more professional) because they are jealous of the bond the nanny has with their children.
If someone is good they will develop a strong bond. If they are not a good nanny, they won't.

Honestly I'd consider moving in with your family for a couple of years. Then put DD in ft nursery for core hours (8-6). This is the least disruptive plan for her.

It's not just childcare. How about your own self care? Cleaning, tidying, shopping, cooking. You will burn out without so much outsourcing that you have no life.