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Unauthorised absences.. please help

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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 20:33

I recently received my childs attendance sheet. 16 unauthorised absences.. i knew DS wouldn’t be skiving and I always contact school to reports sickness etc.. so I contacted them an they told me even though I’ve rang they still an go down as unauthorised shock so I left it for a few hour.. but then I was like nope, this isn’t right.. after doing some research into school policies and procedures it clearly stated I should of been informed about there intentions so then I could provide proof such as docs app etc. (They never did this) After revealing this to the attendance teacher she told me she would inform the principle and they would change them to authorised.. today I received an voicemail stating they will only change three back to authorised.. however I have proof of me contacting school on every occasion even call history of contacting the doctor and pcr test results.. I really have no idea why there being like this, the school isn’t the best an are seen as inadequate by ofsted an have been taken over by an academy.. I’m already concerned about teaching standards aswel!! Sorry it’s so long but what can I do about these unauthorised absences that are actually authorised. Thank you I’m advance x

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Wolfiefan · 09/02/2022 21:57

Reread your previous post

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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:49

@Wolfiefan

Schools can request proof. They don’t have to.
Oh my god yes they do I have researched there policies and the government policies for what school should follow, I have also attached these to you on previous posts.. and only if a reason isn’t give within a reasonable amount of time can it be marked 0
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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:47

@NeedAHoliday2021 haha well she actually said to me send him in poorly for us to send him home from now on! Hmm ok Hmm

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Wolfiefan · 09/02/2022 21:46

Schools can request proof.
They don’t have to.

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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:45

@JoyOrbison

Medical appointments, eg hospital, that are allocated by the hispital are classed as medical. Illness, gp apps for ciughs, colds etc, are nit authorised, they are illness and will add up on yoyr childs absrnces.

Illnesses, and you ringing school to say your child is ill, dorsnt make an absrnce authorised.

And if you want to kniw how the pricedure to chalkenfe tjis and not opinions dont come on a chat forum , use the internet to. Look up the process Hmm

An actually gp apps etc are classed as authorised I have also researched this also Smile bearing in mind children arnt allowed in school with a temp cough l, are these not cold symptoms!???
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NeedAHoliday2021 · 09/02/2022 21:41

If it’s for pcr tests, just say fine, if you won’t authorise the absence I’ll send dc in with covid.

AnxiousHeffalump · 09/02/2022 21:41

The school I work in is the same. All absences, unless proven Covid, or an actual medical appointment or hospital stay, will go as unauthorised. So, all non-Covid illness is now unauthorised. I don’t know why.

NeedAHoliday2021 · 09/02/2022 21:40

@JaniceBingALing I’m in the West Country in England and our school has a principal and an attendance officer.

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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:39

@Userblabla it’s does matter though, to me anyway. for one it’s doesn’t look good on me as a parent, and when government guideline say they should inform me so I can provide proof and don’t, yes its really annoyed me and is unjustified

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Userblabla · 09/02/2022 21:35

@TheSmallAssassin

Am I missing something? Why does it matter how they've recorded them?
This is what I was wondering. I’d probably be annoyed as well but it doesn’t matter does it?
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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:33

@JoyOrbison all i have done is research, my research had the school agreeing to remove them then changing there mind after the head spoke to the academy.. I have proof of his illnesses my issue is they never asked for proof or I would of provided And still can provide.. but I’m not getting anywhere with them, so I’m asking where my next option is, citizens advice? Council? I don’t know that’s why I’m here

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Unauthorised absences.. please help
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DrDreReturns · 09/02/2022 21:30

@thesmallassassin you can get fined for persistent unauthorised absences. Fortunately it didn't happen to us.

DrDreReturns · 09/02/2022 21:29

My daughter had a bit if time off for mental health issues last summer. apparently the school aren't allowed to record mental health absences as authorised by the department of education. It's disgraceful in my opinion.

TheSmallAssassin · 09/02/2022 21:29

Am I missing something? Why does it matter how they've recorded them?

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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:29

@sirzy he has has 11 days altogether 4 authorised but I’m the middle of the authorised there odd days in between and after where they are unauthorised.. all are when waiting for pcr results am being poorly with temp ear infection which I have proof off from doctors, his only year 7 I’ve never had this problem with primary school.

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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:27

@SliceOfCakeCupOfTea yes well it’s very all over the place on his report as in one week it will say for instance.. on the Monday (covid related) up until Thursday where it changed to unauthorised.. then goes back to covid related on the Friday.. an I wouldnt mind but since the time of in September he has full attendance.

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Sirzy · 09/02/2022 21:26

Was he off for 8 days with covid or had it been lots of days here and there?

Wolfiefan · 09/02/2022 21:25

My opinion doesn’t matter. Clearly the school doesn’t believe the absence should be authorised. And you said it’s not all down to COVID.
You can follow complaints procedure but I’m not sure what outcome you want. If it’s an inadequate school and you are deeply unhappy then look for alternatives?

JoyOrbison · 09/02/2022 21:23

Medical appointments, eg hospital, that are allocated by the hispital are classed as medical. Illness, gp apps for ciughs, colds etc, are nit authorised, they are illness and will add up on yoyr childs absrnces.

Illnesses, and you ringing school to say your child is ill, dorsnt make an absrnce authorised.

And if you want to kniw how the pricedure to chalkenfe tjis and not opinions dont come on a chat forum , use the internet to. Look up the process Hmm

UpDownRound · 09/02/2022 21:22

@Wolfiefan

I’m aware it’s 8 days. And yes that’s a lot of absence.
It's not unusual this year. I teach primary and in the last week alone had about a quarter of the class miss 5 days (10 sessions). Lots of children have had PCR tests at a couple of points in the year and had to wait for results.
SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 09/02/2022 21:22

OP I find this strange. My kids school class an authorised absence as essentially a reported absence before their cut off on the day.
Unauthorised is not turned up with no warning or not letting them know before the morning cut off.

DS has also had about 8 days absence due to covid but this is all down as authorised.

SliceOfCakeCupOfTea · 09/02/2022 21:20

@Wolfiefan

I’m aware it’s 8 days. And yes that’s a lot of absence.
In normal circumstances it is but it's more common ATM (or was up until nowish) with people having up to 10 days isolation with COVID. That's 8 days off school right there.
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KLou30 · 09/02/2022 21:19

@Wolfiefan this was at the start of term in September we are now In February and I’ve o pay noticed after receiving his report.. your argument is invalid.. how can I possibly send my child into school poorly with covid symptoms.. I know my point in this matter is right and I’m asking how i can take this further not your opinion. The school ofsted report is inadequate says it all really

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Wolfiefan · 09/02/2022 21:12

I’m aware it’s 8 days. And yes that’s a lot of absence.

Wolfiefan · 09/02/2022 21:11

You contacting the school doesn’t authorise absence.
You contact the school and they then decide whether to authorise the absence or not. Obviously in this case they haven’t authorised it. And you’ve now been informed.
That is a lot of absence and school have to do their best to ensure attendance.

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