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Grandparent asking for money for looking after my 9 month son

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Candyfloss11 · 04/01/2022 23:04

I have a 9 month old son and for the past year my mother has been living with me and my husband. She has helped us out a lot by looking after my son when both me and my husband are in a pinch. This has been great and much appreciated and at first i thought she was happy to help out because she expressed how much she wanted a grandchild before my son was born.

So we let her stay with us so she can spend more time with her grandchild. However she has recently said she now wants to be paid for looking after my son and is upset that we haven’t paid her at all. She did not indicate that she expected payment in the first place. Does this seem reasonable at all? Given that she is staying with us she has no expenses, she is divorced with no partner and is retired so it’s not like she has been missing out on any employment income anyway. We have also taken her to a few holidays with us as well.

If anything i’m more hurt that she feels this way, as my point of view us paying her feels like a transaction and not the fact that it’s her grandchild. I’m more than happy to pay for expenses that she might incur for looking after my son but in our case there isn't any because she lives with us. But if she wants payment then i might as well take my son to a nursery when im back at work.

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Scottsy100 · 06/01/2022 18:51

Wow lives in your house rent and expense free then asks you to pay her, sorry but your mum is a CF. I’m not sure I could have her staying with me after that I’m afraid. Totally unreasonable behaviour

SchadenfreudePersonified · 06/01/2022 18:50

@MrsElijahMikaelson1

Say yes-happy to pay you. At the same time, we set up the rental agreement for us housing you/subsidising your living expenses and then we can knock it off what you owe us…!
This ^

Or just tell her to find a place and put your child in a nursery.

Mitzi067 · 06/01/2022 18:48

Most annoying thing about this blog is that OP hardly replies to questions; is she playing games and needs attention! I am not reading any more.

StellaGibson118 · 06/01/2022 18:47

I think she's quite rude to not pay anything towards the house at all when you say she's not short of cash and then expect payment too. Unless she is hiding the fact she IS short of cash and trying to cover it up. Perhaps asking for money because she is stressed about her cash situation. Any chance of this?

MammaMacgill87 · 06/01/2022 18:47

I'm in two camps here, looking after a child is hard work especially in old age and to off hand assume someone should be happy to do it because they are a relation is entitled and rude. But you mentioned she lives with you for free, why is this how did it come about? If she's frail enough that she can't live independently why on earth would you leave her in charge of a baby and without any compensation. Family dynamics and childcare is always dodgy. Put your baby in childcare and discuss with her reimbursement for living with you. Cut out all the problems at the source

PUGMEISTER21 · 06/01/2022 18:46

Seems very unreasonable. I would offer to pay her but then tell her she has to pay rent at the double the amount you have just offered to pay her. That should make her realise that her request is unreasonable.

Tarano17 · 06/01/2022 18:45

@Hertsgirl10 Yes really. What planet do you live on to think being a childminder for a new born baby could be described as a “holiday”????

Starlightening · 06/01/2022 18:45

I would say maybe your mum is a bit overwhelmed with providing the care and perhaps it’s her way of trying to get you to look at alternatives?? Maybe she thinks if you pay her you could pay for a nursery placement . Might be worth an open discussion, could you consider a part time nursery place ?? to show your prepared to pay for some childcare and let her know your not expecting too much of her. It also sounds like she should be contributing to some household bills too ! I would ask her to contribute financially so you can put the money towards a few hours of alternative childcare ? That way your showing her that you realise your son needs care but also that it’s costly and judge her response ??

Technonan · 06/01/2022 18:42

It depends how much childcare and general help she's giving you. You don't expect a live-in Nanny to pay rent - you pay her.

Lolabray · 06/01/2022 18:42

Your own mum expecting to be paid for babysitting .. it shouldn’t be classed as work

spacer · 06/01/2022 18:36

Oh my gosh. I wouldn’t want to be paid even if I was looking after grandchild in my own home. Only time I would expect to be paid is if I gave up paid work to look after grandchild. But as you’d have to be ofsted registered wouldn’t be that easy.

Blossom64265 · 06/01/2022 18:34

Craziest thing, just providing a person with a place to live in exchange for household labor these days tends to end up making headlines for modern day slavery or imprisonment.

I know you aren’t actually trying to take advantage of grandma, but it’s really not reasonable to expect her to be your full time child care provider for nothing more than room and board.

ANameChangeAgain · 06/01/2022 18:32

Coming in late, but if you are going back to work why not suggest an au pair plus housekeeper type arrangement. She commits to a set amount of hours looking after your son whilst you work in return for board and a bit of pocket money?

Magnited · 06/01/2022 18:29

Maybe she has no income and maybe it would be nice to give her something?

woodhill · 06/01/2022 18:26

@Sallybates

There is a scheme whereby she has NI contributions paid by the state for childcare of this sort. Doesn’t cost you anything and could enhance her state pension. Although retired she might not be of that age to get state pension?
OPs dm lives in another country so hasn't paid any any NI
cherrypie66 · 06/01/2022 18:24

@Candyfloss11

Just answering some of the questions here, no she does not contribute to any household expenses or the holidays. Reason is because we saw her as family but looks like she sadly doesnt feel like that.

I agree we have taken her for granted for the many times she’s helped us but she never really complained about it and we were always under the impression she just wanted to spend more time with me and her grandchild. Feels like she bottled it all up until now

Finally she is living with us because she has no where else to stay in the country. She has her own home in another country but she decided to come stay with us to help us out as she really wanted a grandchild - these were her own words.

My plan is to hopefully have an open sit down convo with her soon

She needs to pay rent then bloody cheek. I couldn't feel the same after this I'd just ask her to go home
cherish123 · 06/01/2022 18:22

YANBU
Very odd to expect payment for looking after a grandchild.

cherrypie66 · 06/01/2022 18:21

@rattlemehearties

As far as I understand it she needs to be Ofsted registered if she wants to be paid for regular childcare (as opposed to babysitting)
That's rubbish. Nannies don't need to be ofstead registered only childminders
Sallybates · 06/01/2022 18:18

There is a scheme whereby she has NI contributions paid by the state for childcare of this sort. Doesn’t cost you anything and could enhance her state pension. Although retired she might not be of that age to get state pension?

Overtired201984 · 06/01/2022 18:17

She is out of order ! ….. as far as I’m concerned ! Who pays their grandparents to look after the child , honestly , sorry to slag your mother off - but the UTTER CHEEK!

HauntedPencil · 06/01/2022 18:17

If she wasn't living with you and short of money I'd say no it might be an idea to give something to reflect the costs you are saving but if she is living with you rent free I do think it's a bit rich to ask for pay for it - it would be like you charging her rent

2DogsOnMySofa · 06/01/2022 18:16

She pays no rent, no bills and I presume eats at your expense, but she wants paying for a few hours a week of childcare? Lol I think I'd laugh at her and ask her if she'd prefer to move out or pay rent and contribute towards food

OMG12 · 06/01/2022 18:15

I would take your DS to nursery where he can benefit from all they have to offer. Set up rental agreement with your DM and ask for contribution to living costs. Discuss now payment re looking after her in old age.

eagerlywaitingfor · 06/01/2022 18:14

In a multi-generational household it is only fair for all adults to either contribute financially to the running of the household, or in other ways if they are physically able.

What next - will she expect to be paid for doing some ironing?

YDBear · 06/01/2022 18:11

So she lives free with you and gives you free childcare? But now wants to be paid? If I were you I’d just say “since you don’t enjoy the task I will take the child to daycare, but this will be a little pricey so perhaps we should discuss your paying rent from now on.” Don’t address the “she’ll do it but for money” aspect. Just present as you “understanding” she doesn’t want to do it from now on and quite reasonably seeking alternative arrangements. See how she gets out of that.

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