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6 week maternity leave, DC3 - realistic?

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TwoYearsMarried · 02/01/2022 20:41

DC no 3 due 15 June. Planned. I am the main breadwinner (by far). Six weeks ago I landed a huge new client which could really 'make' the rest of my career. I am 35 so this is a big success story so early on.

This will be our DC no 3 and I only went back to work in August 2021 after DC 2, so the gap will be v short. Work will not be expecting DC3 at all when I eventually break the news... 😬

This time around I really don't feel as though I need a long break like the others, especially having only recently gone back. I don't want to hand over this new client to someone else in our company for any longer than 6-8 weeks because it is such a fundamental time in developing the relationship. At the moment the client wants, and has, me on tap. They will be bringing in close to £1m in revenue a year for the company, so it's a fairly big deal (for me, anyway).

As such I am considering taking 6-8 weeks off and going back 3-4 days a week after that. My husband works for our family business so taking paternity leave isn't really an option for him. The most obvious solution is for me to work from home until the baby is 6-7 months old with a nanny in the next room of our house. I'd then always be "with" the baby but also not, if you see what I mean... I would combination feed so that bottles are easy to mix up during the day.

Work will support whatever I choose to do and will pretty much bend over backwards for me.

Am I being wholly unrealistic? Has anyone else with an intense job done likewise and how did you find it?

Other consideration for you wise MNs is the financial side. Going back after just 6-8 weeks will of course benefit my company, but likewise, probably to the same extent, benefits me personally if I ever left and wanted to take this client with me. By going back so soon, I'm essentially foregoing the 4 months full pay followed by 2 months half pay our firm offer whilst on mat leave. There is no incentive for going back early and sacrificing this enhanced maternity package. I would also need to incur 4x our usual childcare costs by employing a nanny until the baby was old enough to attend nursery (i.e from 6-8 weeks old until it is 6months). That amounts to c£2k a month, so financially it puts me at a big disadvantage. If I didn't give a toss about my career then I'd put my feet up for six months and go back then, but I fear I'd lose this client in the meantime. Am I overstepping the mark to either ask work to compensate for the nanny so that I come back early, or to give me the equivalent in a cash payment of the enhanced maternity pay I would otherwise have received? I fear they will simply say that they can get someone else to cover the client whilst I am off and for me to go away and have a proper break, but I know (and from past experience with my earlier two DC) that someone else being allocated to this client will either (a) put no leg work in, so we'll essentially lose them or (b) get so entrenched with them that by the time I come back it will no longer be my client and all is lost. Stakes are too high for that at this stage.

Any advice please? I am losing sleep over this. I absolutely live for my kids and family but likewise am ambitious and driven. I am so torn!

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toomuchlaundry · 03/01/2022 09:11

But is also making a valid point, could you carry on working if your young baby was crying in another part of the house? I don’t think I could.

VitaminA · 03/01/2022 09:09

Some posters here don't realise that valuing your career doesn't make you a bad mum, and that working (even full time) doesn't negatively impact on the relationship with your children. I understand that you can't know this if you've always been a sahm or worked part time, but there's no need to be so unpleasant and say the OP shouldn't have had 3 DC!

OP, if you do an advanced search you will find numerous helpful threads on this topic.

VaguelyInteresting · 03/01/2022 09:06

@toomuchlaundry

Guilt the OP about going back to work with “I couldn’t even pop to the shops without baby at that age”- it’s just not nice. It’s implicitly shaming.

toomuchlaundry · 03/01/2022 09:03

@VaguelyInteresting what are you telling another poster not to do?

VaguelyInteresting · 03/01/2022 09:01

@JustWonderingIfYou - please don’t do that.

OP- I would float this with your company. See what the response is to what you’re asking, and THEN make your decision.

If you can find the money for the nanny regardless (assume you can) then I would do it and see it not as a true cost, but one that will be recouped down the line.

Starryskiesinthesky · 03/01/2022 08:56

I think you earn a lot and are ambitious but if you are good at your job you will get to the next level it just might take longer.

For me quality of life is worth more than money.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 03/01/2022 08:54

@TwoYearsMarried
Some firms do this as an incentive to go back, they pay back the equivalent in the enhanced mat pay as a lump sum. If I'm at home for 4 months with my feet up on full pay I'd be earning the same if I were working for them.

Some places may offer it as an incentive (no where I've ever worked but I'm a pauper Grin) but it's an odd way to look at it. If you're at home "with your feet up" you're getting one lot of pay, if you're at work with an incentive then that's two lots of pay. Bearing in mind, the company probably aren't that bothered about you specifically having the client, there are others that can cover so there may not be any benefit to them to pay double. Equally, I can't see them offering to pay for your childcare for the same reasons.

There's no harm in asking, I suppose. I'd possibly echo a previous poster and try to negotiate a pay rise to cover your costs, but don't tell them that's why!

WarmForDecember · 03/01/2022 08:54

Hah yes make sure you describe the nanny job as 'sitting about with your feet up'... Wink

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 03/01/2022 08:52

Describing Mat leave as putting your feet up- I’d say yes go back to work you clearly don’t value the time- which is fine we are all different (not quite sure why you chose to have 3DC)

junebirthdaygirl · 03/01/2022 08:49

In the US Mom's get a much shorter maternity leave so have no choice but to go back. My biggest issue would have been the baby waking so much at night my head wouldn't have been ready for concentrating on work all day. Also you already have a young baby so it will be quite hectic for you and for any nanny to manage. If your other dc react badly to the new baby and need more attention for a while how will you manage this.
There is the important part of bonding with his baby as you did with your others and six weeks is a short time.
I fully understand your professional demands but l think for yourself and the baby and your toddler it's all too much.
Could you go back part time solely focusing on this new client?

JustWonderingIfYou · 03/01/2022 08:48

What about your baby? Your post seems to be just about your career. Maternity is for you to recover but also spend time with your child. I'd be heartbroken to leave dc at that age even for a quick pop to the shops let alone all day. Could you really carry on working if you heard your newborn crying for you? Even the best nanny in the world is not mum.

Women do go back after 6 weeks in some countries but normally it isn't seen as ideal.

Boysnme · 03/01/2022 08:47

Without knowing where you live or what your outgoings are, your currently salary should be significant enough to ensure you can cover the additional cost for a nanny even if that means saving now for the time.

It sounds from your post that you are committed and passionate about your job and if going back early is something you want to do then you should go for it.

Presumably your DH will be sharing responsibilities with you anyway so the full burden is not on you? Appreciate he can’t take shared parental leave but does he muck in now with childcare / housework etc.

I’d also consider what your options are if you choose not to return once baby is here. Can you back out of going back early and take your mat leave?

Changelingbutonlyforme · 03/01/2022 08:45

Jacinda Arden choosing to take just 6weeks of maternity leave had nothing to do with how much paid maternity leave is available in NZ and everything to do with the fact she’d been elected Prime Minister 8 months beforehand and needed to go back ASAP to keep credibility as leader. I think she found out she was pregnant around the time she accepted the job as Prime Minister. It is actually fairly comparable to OPs situation in that financially there would have been no incentive to go back that early, it was all about keeping credibility with the ´client’ - the people voting for her.

user1471604848 · 03/01/2022 08:45

At those salary levels, yes I'd do it.

But at 6 weeks, your baby likely will not sleep through the night. So budget for a night nanny a few nights a week, and then split the other nights with your husband.

Can you go back to work, but use annual leave to only work 4 days a week? Maybe take a week holidays a few weeks in.

Once you've worked with the client and built up a relationship, could you take parental leave later in the year (say when the baby is 8 or 9 months)? That's only if you want to, and don't want to feel you've "missed out" on time at home with the baby.

I work from home and have a nanny minding my toddler twins. I give them lunch every day, and it's great being able to pop down to them when I have a break in meetings.

Makingnumber2 · 03/01/2022 08:42

Could you look at SPL? You don’t actually need to split any leave at all with your partner to do it. You would need to check though that your employer would pay your enhanced maternity pay rate for SPL though. If they did give you the same enhanced pay with SPL then you can take an initial chunk of mat leave of 6 weeks, return to work for a period of time, then take your first block of SPL down the line- perhaps once you’ve established your relationship with client. You can take SPL across 3 chunks plus an additional chunk of mat leave. You are entitled to a total of 52 weeks of SPL I believe and it must end on your child’s first birthday. Check ACAS website for full details.

FTEngineerM · 03/01/2022 08:33

Meaning financially I'll be looking at earning closer to 250k pa as opposed to 150k now. They are the golden ticket into the next level- usually have to wait 5 years to get to the next level

On one hand it’s a no brained imo. This sentence alone shows it’s career making. Men do this all the fucking time and have babies so I wholeheartedly think that women should grab the same bill by both horns.

But.. will you be physically able? Without knowing how labour will be or how the new baby will be it’s difficult to say whether you’ll feel up to it.

I set some KIT days up for 6 weeks PP this time because I hated my last loooong boring maternity leave but when the time came I was still recovering from emcs and the baby has some unknown uncomfort so I cancelled them.

TakeYourFinalPosition · 03/01/2022 08:29

I’m self employed; baby is nearly 2 weeks old and I’ll probably start doing bits and pieces again next week, I think. It’ll be quite flexible & from home; but I think I’ll start.

I know people who didn’t take much of a break at all; and people who couldn’t have functioned adding work in to the mix too… it really depends on your personality, how well you cope, and your baby, I think.

CaramelWaferAndTea · 03/01/2022 08:25

My mum took six weeks with me. If you can have a FT nanny for the two kids under 1 I would do it. I don’t think nursery offers much to little babies and it’ll save you money. I would also pay for some night support so that you sleep (maybe 2 nights a week?). Also use some leave (?AL) to work 4 days a week for another 2 months.

I’m not in your line of work but if you have a bonus structure I would seriously ask for this to reflect your choice to give up mat pay.

toomuchlaundry · 03/01/2022 08:24

You have a strange way of talking about maternity leave. Did you not do much with your previous babies when on maternity leave (although I assume one was a lockdown baby). Not sure I would be too impressed if someone had said I was just sitting at home with my feet up when I was on maternity leave

Familyfallout · 03/01/2022 08:20

I went back to an intense job at 16 weeks after having DD3 and all was fine. DH had her the days I worked (3 days a week) and I mixed fed with no problems. Before going back fully I did quite a few KIT days, so it felt like I didn't really leave my key clients. Like you I am the main breadwinner and I enjoy my job and knew how I would recover from my 2 previous births/night wakings. I would ask for mat costs to pay your additional childcare costs, can't really hurt to try! In the very least company might pay you what the would have spent recruiting a mat leave cover

TwoYearsMarried · 03/01/2022 08:20

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

Does keeping the client reap any financial gain?
If I move, and they follow me (which if they stay with me, I know they will), or even if I stay at the same firm with them, I'll be fast tracked into promotion. Meaning financially I'll be looking at earning closer to 250k pa as opposed to 150k now. They are the golden ticket into the next level- usually have to wait 5 years to get to the next level, I'd be looking at 2.5-3 years, and even sooner if I left and walked straight in at that level elsewhere (assuming again they follow me)
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TwoYearsMarried · 03/01/2022 08:15

@OnlyFoolsnMothers

I don’t think you can ask the company to pay you your mat pay as a lump sum regardless of what you decide - you will be receiving your salary on returning, why would they choose to be out of pocket
Some firms do this as an incentive to go back, they pay back the equivalent in the enhanced mat pay as a lump sum. If I'm at home for 4 months with my feet up on full pay I'd be earning the same if I were working for them. The no brainer is to take the benefit and stay at home but I'm concerned about longer term career implications.
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neverenoughchelseaboots · 03/01/2022 08:14

I've done 12 weeks with DC1 and it was fine, I wanted to go back and performed as well as previously (maybe a little better as I was used to squeezing every minute of time).

I'm currently at 6 weeks of mat leave with DC2 and would be happy and able to go back to work now if due to.

I think in a lot of ways it's easier to go back sooner because you're more familiar with everything happening at work still.

WarmForDecember · 03/01/2022 08:14

It sounds workable, albeit absolute hell (to me).

6 weeks off does not necessarily mean the baby will be 6 weeks old unless you are working until your waters break...?

I've recently had my 3rd and it has been absolutely wonderful, however I felt horrendous for the first 4-6 weeks (my 3rd c section). My DD is a good sleeper but I am still tired. Really tired. Will the nanny do the school and nursery run? The hardest part of having a 3rd for me has been trying to run around with the other 2. Eg eldest going to swimming lessons, I need to take 2 other children, get him changed, sit at the side with a toddler and baby etc. Repeat for beavers, ballet etc. Every school run involves the baby getting chucked in a sling or pram whether she is awake, asleep, whatever. Will the nanny run the rest of family life while you're working?

We will be getting a nanny when I go back to work to do all of that stuff and do the school run etc. I'm going back part time after 12 months and even that feels daunting (and expensive!).

I fully understand the desire to return to work and deal with the client. Is it a long-term thing or will there be a chance to take time off maybe the following year or something?

OnlyFoolsnMothers · 03/01/2022 08:07

I don’t think you can ask the company to pay you your mat pay as a lump sum regardless of what you decide - you will be receiving your salary on returning, why would they choose to be out of pocket