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Mother’s Helper vaping

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TwinMum35 · 25/05/2021 14:51

I did try to post this in childcare first

What would you do in my situation? Long one sorry!

We have 7mth twins and managed to find a Mother’s Helper when they were 4 months. We live in a small place and we had been looking since they were born.

For background; She is very loving with the babies and is certainly more focused on them than any other tasks which perhaps is a source of irritation for me. I’m hoping this isn’t clouding my judgment.
She came with a spectacular reference from another twin parent and she works 40hrs per week with us. She claimed to be a non-smoker in her application.

When she first started she used the bathroom an unusual amount and I had no idea why until my husband said after a few weeks she is probably using a vape in there! I felt uncomfortable that we hadn’t been given an opportunity to discuss boundaries and rules about it but I still didn’t actually know if she was vaping.

Fast forward a month and she left her vape out in the bathroom. I used the opportunity to say that she must never handle it and then the children without washing her hands and that she must never use it anywhere but that room...

A few weeks later she was napping one of the babies in a sling in the kitchen when the baby I was napping woke ten mins early. I went to the kitchen door to signal to her that she should end the nap.
She was watching something on her phone with one hand and with the other, holding her vape pen around neck height, poised in the position that you would use it in and it was lit up (which I assume they only do when in use). When she saw me she absolutely crapped her pants and quickly tried to hide it behind her back in a panicked fashion.

When she came into the lounge I said firmly that she had been told clearly never to use it near the children. She lied to me and said she had just been holding it out of the way while she got her chapstick out of her pocket. She repeatedly denied it and told me that she would never ever do such a thing.

Basically I know she was doing it and lied about it but I felt a bit stuck in the situation and she half convinced me I was wrong so I just hoped she would never do it again.

This morning the same sort of scenario caused me to come to the door early and she quickly slid something off the table and behind herself. I didn’t see what it was but her behaviour makes it seem fairly obvious 🤦‍♀️

What on earth do I do? Do I have to actually catch her again to talk about it or act or what? Now I’m left feeling like I should end a nap early just to see it with my own eyes.

I don’t actually want to lose her but I absolutely cannot accept someone vaping around my babies. She has caused me enough reason to suspect that now I feel I have to do something for my babies sake.

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AtrociousCircumstance · 26/05/2021 12:17

Oh get rid of her, she’s not trustworthy. She lied, and then she fed you a bullshit lie on top of that (looking for her chapstick Hmm ).

Vaping is full of gross chemicals and who knows what will be discovered about the harms as time goes on.

tentosix · 26/05/2021 12:15

Suggest she switches to nicotine patches? Nicotine addiction is awful.

Twickerhun · 26/05/2021 11:12

If you are her employer and have lost trust and confidence in her you can end the contract For that. You need to explain to her your side, ask her to respond then tell her your decision over her future work.

TwinMum35 · 26/05/2021 11:08

Thanks for your replies @Mummybunny2000 @Lawnpop and @lobsteroll

Lawnpop, she is allowed to go in the bathroom whenever she wants and I’ve never questioned how much she goes there or how long she spends. She tends to go immediately before a nap and straight after. Naps till recently were 90mins.
You’re right, the lying itself is a big hit on the trust front.

I didn’t have any help till 4 months so I do know how hard it is and I do the mid afternoon to evening without help 👍 We don’t have any family support at all so there is really no respite but this x

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Lawnpop · 25/05/2021 19:55

Does she get regular breaks away from the babies so that she could vape then? It seems odd that she can’t wait until her break. I think ultimately you have to decide if this is a deal breaker for you. I wouldn’t be happy about the lying.
Totally off topic but I also have twins and I’m incredibly jealous that you have help for 40 hours a week Envy , what I would have given for an extra pair of hands when mine were babies and toddlers.

lobsteroll · 25/05/2021 19:48

I know you don't want to get rid of her and totally understand your position but she's a liar. That would be enough for me to have to let her go.

Mummybunny2000 · 25/05/2021 19:35

Right. What I suggest you do is sit her down and have a conversation that goes something like this...

“I’m in a really difficult position. You are amazing with the babies and help me so much but I absolutely can’t have vaping around them. I did make this clear and I’ve caught you doing it a few times or what I suspect is that you were vaping. I’m not stupid so I know you were, I don’t want to make things awkward because I love and appreciate the help you give. But I think I’m going to ask if you can please leave the vape in a drawer in my bedroom whilst looking after the children? If you want to go and vape every couple of hours or so when there’s nothing that needs doing that’s fine. I’m sorry to seem strict but I did ask nicely and my babies come first. I feel slightly upset that you did it regardless, but I’m willing to let it slide if we can agree that the vape is put away”

Sorry you’ve been put in this position but she shouldn’t disrespect you and to vape around your babies is actually awful after you asked her not to. That’s just plain disrespectful to you and the babies x

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