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Au Pair Issues - Asked Her To Leave

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TheRoadToOmaha · 08/03/2021 23:15

First time I've posted here. We hired our first au pair just after Xmas last year to look after our 4yr old son and 3yr old daughter while I work from home. In the time she's been here my son's behaviour has deteriorated which we initially put down to being in lockdown and him feeling unsettled having someone new living with us but he hadn't been himself for a while. We've noticed she favours our daughter and gives her much more attention. She is very impatient with our son and treats them both like an inconvenience. Our son has become withdrawn with everyone to the point that family and our childminder have noticed.

I heard her telling him off recently in French (her native tongue) and frustrated and crying ge asked why to which responded because I don't want to swear at you in English. Also, this morning he had marks on his arm after she got him dressed. He said it was sore but didn't want to tell us what happened. When I got him ready for bed it had turned into bruises that look like fingerprints. He didn't want to tell me what had happened but eventually admitted it was the au pair. I think he was scared to tell me.
We sat down and asked her about it, she said it was an accident and that her ring left the marks and that she didn't grab him. I pointed out that even if that were the case she must have been really rough with him to leave bruises like that. She basically just agreed with everything I said with no explanation or apology. Just feel awful to have experienced this and never imagined this would happen. No flights back to France and I don't think I can really recommend her to another family. I really don't feel comfortable with her being around the kids so really hoping the agency have a solution. :( Sorry mainly just needed to vent and wondered if anyone else had had a bad experience.

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Chimeraforce · 09/03/2021 15:53

Pay her and tell the agency she will be leaving today.
Don't inadvertently punish the victim by putting him out of his safe area. Make the perpetrator go.

Nancylovesthecock · 09/03/2021 15:44

Throw her out on her arse. See how she likes North Scotland in winter on foot.

Fucking bitch would be lucky I didn't beat the living shit out of her.

Enuffisenough · 09/03/2021 15:44

I've not read the whole thread OP so I'm sorry if what I'm saying is a repeat from other posters. Firstly, I am really sorry you've experienced this, I hope you and your family are doing okay and are supported. My advice to you is to contact Children Social Care and explain what has happened, they can support you through the necessary processes. You've done absolutely nothing wrong - you've used an agency, references etc... so please don't be concerned about that. This will likely need a police investigation but social care can advise you. I did see your reply about being reluctant due to it further stressing your children. This is a wholly understandable position BUT not one I would encourage you to keep. You have no certainty that the au pair will return to France and not just be placed with another family - they clearly haven't sufficiently assessed her suitability to work with children when placed with you, this isn't something that you can just take on trust I'm afraid. Also, if they've placed someone unsuitable with you, they may have done it with others. I understand your desire to want to protect your children, but with the specialist support available your children can be helped through this AND taught that it is NEVER acceptable for an adult to hurt a child. It will also open doors for longer term emotional support - you've done an amazing job of spotting this and handling it, please keep that going. Other children may not have parents who are so switched on and an investigation into the au pair and agency may be their only hope. I feel for you and wish you all the luck in the world. 🤗

2bazookas · 09/03/2021 15:44

@TheRoadToOmaha

Surely the fact that she knows we know now means she realises she won't get away with it? Or am I missing something.
You are missing this; she is an immature person who can't control herself and the fact she has been caught and disgraced puts her under more pressure. Which could result in further (or different ) misbehaviour. Like, stealing from you for funds , then making a run for it.

Keep your wallets, bank cards, car keys and house keys secure.

Moon90 · 09/03/2021 15:40

Not to sound dramatic but I'd definitely report her to the police, she sounds like someone who wouldn't think twice to hurt a child (the arm marks prove that point) the right thing to do is make her leave and charge her with abusing your child so you can make sure she will never work with kids again as i couldn't handle the guilt if an other trusting family let her work for them and for all you know, she could couse more harm to the next kid.

grandpacificpineapole · 09/03/2021 15:38

Something else that has occurred to me is that you describe him becoming withdrawn during the au pairs time with you. That suggests her behaviour towards him has been unacceptable for quite some time. Just because he has injuries from this recent incident it doesn't mean there haven't been previous incidents that haven't left noticeable physical marks. This would make me concerned that this isn't a teenager out of her depth once but someone wholly unsuitable to be trusted around children. Adding in her total lack of remorse and that is an extra worry that really should have statutory agencies involved

TheRoadToOmaha · 09/03/2021 15:37

I'm going to ignore the completely inconstructive comments and focus on the constructive ones.

She has gone, she is out my house never to return again. I will strongly consider involving the police. I totally agree with the comments about potential harm of children in the future if she continues work as an au pair.

I'm not ignoring anyones comments and I don't really appreciate the tone of the comments insinuating there is something wrong with my approach. I've provided a snapshot view of a situation that you otherwise know nothing about.

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tara66 · 09/03/2021 15:32

OP your au pair will be allowed to travel to France if she is going to her main residence. She will need covid tests negative certificates done a certain number of hours before she flies and she will need to fill in the French form required for travelling. There is 6p.m. curfew I understand in most of France but people travelling home from airports home are exempt.

foodiefil · 09/03/2021 15:32

God you've done the right thing getting her out - I don't think I'd be able to have her in my house for a second more - she could find a b&b and piss off as far as I was concerned. Hope your children are ok

AmberItsACertainty · 09/03/2021 15:23

Surely the fact that she knows we know now means she realises she won't get away with it? Or am I missing something.

OP the bit you were missing was that she's probably told your son not to tell what she's done, maybe even threatened him. By having the aupair in the house you'd be giving her the potential opportunity to punish your son for telling you what she's done.

kunterbunting · 09/03/2021 15:19

@cerealgamechanger

You're being far too kind op. If someone had hurt my child, I'd get the police involved and wouldn't care about their welfare. Get her out. The agency can think about the rest.
Same here (though I see that you have already given her her marching orders - and rightly so).
ThisMammaCat · 09/03/2021 15:16

Nowhere to go...pfft she could go sleep under a bush for all I'd care if she hurt one of my children. I'd also call the police. I'm sure that the police can handle your kids with care and sensitivity while asking them what went on. To not call the police is to be okay with her doing this to other children. Your children need to know that if someone hurts them, the police can be called to help.

Angelica789 · 09/03/2021 15:07

Does she have a childcare background or has she come for more of a gap year experience?

What she did was very wrong. But can you imagine being stuck in the house of a family you don’t know, in a rural environment, in a foreign country, during a lockdown? That’s a lot for her to deal with to be quite honest and I’m not surprised she didn’t cope.

footballfan1963 · 09/03/2021 15:00

@Handsoffstrikesagain

She’d have been out on the street last night if she had done that to my child. It is assault. Why do so many people minimise things that happen to children? I bet they were terrified. If there was a man in your house that had punched you OP, I’m sure your DH wouldn’t be concerned about whether he had anywhere to stay that night. I’d personally report to the police. The worry for me would be that she’d try to work with another agency or just advertising her services online and do this to other DC - or worse.
Completely agree. And it sends the wrong message to the children if the person who assaulted them is allowed to stay. Out. Now
AmberItsACertainty · 09/03/2021 15:00

Sorry haven't RTFT. Have you contacted police? This is assault. You need to protect other children too by reporting her. I don't see why you're responsible for getting her home now, she's broken any contract you had by behaving this way towards your son. I don't see that she deserves notice or payment in lieu either. Do people usually get paid notice period when they're dismissed for gross misconduct?

TinyTear · 09/03/2021 14:56

The fact the OP has a childminder and nursery shows she isn't abusing the au pair's hours... the kids, im guessing, go to the childminder and nursery for a morning / a few hours and then get picked up by the au pair for another couple of hours while the parents work

worried3012 · 09/03/2021 14:55

Good that she's leaving ASAP. Grabbing a toddler and leaving a mark isn't on. Not sure it's a crime as such as she didn't hit but was very rough and sounds like she isn't good around kids. Good thing she won't be dealing with them anymore - I didn't even know Au Pairs dealt with the kids but I know I'm massively out of touch.
Definitely needs to go ASAP and glad you've sorted quickly enough.

Is she young OP?

Are you replacing her?

MzHz · 09/03/2021 14:55

I can’t imagine how I’d have reacted if this had happened to my little one

She does absolutely need to go and I’m glad you have told the agency to remove her

I know that you are wary of police, but she’s in a position where she could just do this again.

MaMaD1990 · 09/03/2021 14:54

I think the fluffy hippo woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. That or they enjoy derailing threads with nasty comments to get attention.

Anyway, OP this sounds awful and you've done all the right things. I'd keep open communication with your kids to make them feel safe and try to move on from this, as hard is it will be.

DespairingHomeowner · 09/03/2021 14:54

@TheRoadToOmaha

Right now my concern is my children. If I report it to the police, which trust me I would love to, it will cause a very drawn out stressful, frightening process for my children that will most likely cause more longlasting damage than what has happened. My kids will also have this recorded against their names all through school etc and potentially have to deal with the repercussions for years.

Au pair has made no apology, denies she has grabbed my kids even after being shown the photos. I suspect she just can't handle looking after children as opposed to anything more sinister. I absolutely agree she should never be with a other family and have made this clear to the agent who has notified the French agent that she must be placed with another family due to child protection issues.

@TheRoadToOmaha: sorry this has happened to you.

My initial thought was 'why DON'T you call the police, because it is an assault' but actually, I think you are doing the right thing. I in no way condone assaulting a child (obviously), but it is true that police involvement like that can be quite stressful for children.

I myself was a victim of a (relatively similar) crime when a little older - 7/8: the police investigations etc were quite frightening for me, although that was in large part because my parents did not handle it well. So, it might be best for your kids that you just get rid of her and move on. By informing the agency you have done what you need to.

Usagi12 · 09/03/2021 14:50

I have to say I'd be on the phone to the police if I were you. Stop making excuses for her, she assaulted a child, badly enough to leave bruises FFS.

Eddielzzard · 09/03/2021 14:48

Well done. Perfectly handled. And you've shown your kids that you won't put up with them being hurt, home is their safe space.

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theressomethingaboutmarie · 09/03/2021 14:43

@FluffyHippo that chip on your shoulder must seriously weigh you down. It's almost as if you think that all women should be chained to the kitchen sink once they've had children - I believe that George Bernard Shaw also said: The truth is that family life will never be decent, much less ennobling until this central horror of the dependence of women on men is done away with.

Viviennemary · 09/03/2021 14:43

If your child has been injured by this person it should be reported to the police. She should not be in your house.