Nanny with own child - going rate?

To drop the amount by £1 per hour means over a ten hour day it saves you £10 and can cause far more hassle than it’s worth. I don’t know anyone who say it has worked out well for them.

Personally I'd prefer a nanny to concentrate on the care of my child completely. I'd go with a nanny who does not bring her own child along too.

Other things to think about, you shouldn’t be expected to pay for an extra child for activities, but I would want the level of activities to be kept up. Not cut out because the nanny doesn’t want to pay for her own child often.

I wouldn’t pay the same rate if a nanny brought her child. Why would you, care is no longer 1 on 1? You wouldn’t pay the same if a nanny took on another child would you? I appreciate it’s a bit different as you have more control but wouldn’t pay more than 2/3rds of the cost. But cheeky for a nanny to expect more, otherwise you’re just paying for her childcare for her!

I used to do this and got paid about 20% less than the normal rate for sole charge. Family provided food (I was breastfeeding but would have brought own formula if was applicable) and paid for extra charge for two children at activities

We had a nanny with own child and it was wonderful. Paid £11ph outside London but an expensive area. We paid for food for all children, she paid for any activities for hers. Where there was a ‘sibling’ discount we split the cost.

@PTH20 totally unfair comment. I have nannied with my own child 3 times and went out of my way to ensure the children were the priority at work, probably to the detriment of my own child at times! A professional nanny should be able to ensure the high standards of care you would expect. The families I worked for were always happy, gave excellent refs and we are still in contact. It's a shame if you've had a different experience?
For the record, I was always paid the same as a nanny without child.

The answer is to offer what you you’re happy to pay. You’re the employer, so you set the terms and conditions.
I don’t think £12/gross is unreasonable for a NWOC in London. A lot of nannies who don’t take much of a pay cut when they bring their own child are doing before/after school.
Remember, you’ll have pension contributions and employer Ni on top of that.
Activity costs can be difficult if you want her to do more expensive classes, I’d write out a sample week with her and discuss it.
You’ll also have to work out costs like a double buggy, but also any extra kit like extra high hair/booster seat.

My friend's nanny had her own child and my friend paid nearly normal rates. Remember that you will end up with a very loyal nanny if you do this - she won't want to leave as it will disrupt her own child too. My friend's nanny stayed for 10 years!

@Tier500 she brought her own food and generally paid for her child. I had offered food (and snacks) but she was happy to bring it. I offered to pay for her child for activities that I wanted them to do, and if it was something I prebooked I’d generally get an extra ticket, but she usually paid for her child.

It worked really well, she was part time for about 2 years till she had another child.

Also re sickness - we agreed that generally if mine were sick she would still come, and if hers was sick (with a cold) she would come. Excluding vomiting bugs! She did occasionally leave her child with relatives if she thought he might be infectious or vice versa

Obv she would have paid holidays. Called being employed

I had one before and I'd say I'd rather go for nanny without own child, or a nanny share. She took great pains to assure me no favouritism. However the nanny's own child often acted up, she always sent her to hallway, telling off, painful to watch. She didnt get on with my youngest (same age,
jealousy perhaps, purposely breaking his toys and excluding him etc). It just didnt work. Any activities were geared to her own child so I ended up paying for an extra child.. and all meals. Think she charged £12ph net and paid holidays etc. It was not worthwhile and only reason was it's hard to find a before and after school nanny and she said she would only bring her daughter once a week! It was everyday.

I was so relieved when we ended things. My kids even played differently and developed a stronger bond after without the strange group dynamics.

It can work. Many families do it

Tho equally many don’t want it

I have friends who are nwoc abs take to work with them

I employed a nanny who brought her own child, £12ph in london. She was amazing, totally brilliant, no issues at all and my kids always came first. My kids were 3y10m and 13m when she started, her baby was 6m. She was a v experienced and well regarded nanny already. Happy to answer Qs about how it worked, if it helps

When we were considering this it was only £1 ph cheaper so decided it wasn’t worth it.

The nanny doesn’t get to make choices

She is an employee

I would never do this.

Do you know for sure that the nanny will take her child to work? I'm a nanny and always assumed I had to find childcare myself in order to do my job. In my current job (after school only) I used to take DS with me for 45 minutes until my mum could collect him but the kids I have are 9 and 12 so it's different than having another child the same age

The discounted rate is never enough to make the lack of prioritisation worth it.

I would expect a rate similar to a nanny share