Nanny starting late, leaving early

And if it's a job with a small baby, they sleep a lot. So plenty of quiet time (but a bit boring after a while, give me a 2 year old any day).

I work (ed) in an office, if I’d left 5mins early every day I could catch the slightly earlier train and had no wait- but I wouldn’t get away with that as I was contracted until 5pm. Someone’s travel is of no concern to an employer.
Equally she could propose starting 20mins earlier or staying 20mins later.

Well it depends on if the families need her there at a certain time. So if I was heading to work and HAD to leave early in the morning and couldn't wait 5 mins then I'd expect them to be there on time, same applies at the end of the day. If not then the 5 mins wouldn't worry me

If the nanny is waiting 20 minutes for a bus and leaving at 7 then she's not getting home till 8-8.40 pm. And she starts at 9 am. If I was that nanny I would be leaving at 6 pm 6.30 MAX.

Family B sound like penny pinching pedants and will be lucky to retain a half decent Nanny with that attitude.

Sorry, that actually amounts to 2 hours per month!!!

And those are LONG hours. Is that even legal?
Long hours? That's a late start for a nanny - I'm doing 7.30-6 at the moment, have had jobs that are 7.30-7.30 in the past.

That's an hour she's not working, per month. I'm sorry but waiting 20 minutes is not long at all. Family b are correct. Unless you adjust her wages, so deduct 1 hour per month from her salary.

Does It make a Difference? Does she do less in the day?
I personally would say I could be flexible if everything is done and perhaps sometimes she be ale to do a favour like a babysitting session from time to time - I wouldn't bother me as long as it was 5 mins and didn't drift

Family A are right in my opinion.

In a nanny job a while ago, they used to let me leave 10 mins early in the winter to catch the earlier bus. It was horrible waiting in the cold and dark.
In the summer I used to stay til the end and I would walk to a further bus stop as I enjoyed the walk and it meant not as much waiting around.

Could there be a compromise if Family B are really so rigid? If her earlier train gets her in at 8.40, can she start 10 minutes earlier rather than lose the time at the end? It will mean that she's unlikely to be flexible with staying late though as her day would be even longer.

It would depend on whether the nanny was a good nanny and a valued employee, or a bit shit. I can't see how it adversely affects them. Family b need to wake up because behaving like this will ensure their nannies are never top notch.

And those are LONG hours. Is that even legal?

Isn't it awful? Shocking that someone would happily have someone lose 40 minutes of their day so they can save 10 mins of theirs. People are gross

Agreed. Family B are twats and must be awful to work for!

Family A, happy Nanny.
Family B , resentful Nanny.

Family a is right

Technically Family B are right. I just hope that they work exactly their contracted hours and not a minute less if they are holding the nanny as accountable.

Speaking as an ex-nanny, I agree with PP about family A having a nanny that feels valued and respected due to that approach. She's far more likely to be flexible if you ever need her to stay late if you are flexible to accommodate her not needing to stand on a freezing platform for 20 minutes in the dark.

I have had both types of employers. There were some that I'd go above and beyond for. And others that I did exactly what was in my job description and did not offer flexibility when it came to hours.

Unless this makes a difference in terms of making it harder for the parents to get in the door at the end of the day, family B are being pathetic. I would maybe suggest that it is tried and see how it works. I would imagine the start time is more of an issue as if the train etc is late, she will be very late for work and not just 5 minutes whilst an earlier train gives more of a buffer.

[quote DfEisashambles]@AbbeyBelfast I cannot believe some of the replies on here. Mind boggling.[/quote]
Isn't it awful? Shocking that someone would happily have someone lose 40 minutes of their day so they can save 10 mins of theirs. People are gross.

Family A are showing a bit of consideration, which will likely lead to a good relationship with the nanny, and loyalty on her part.
Family B aren't showing the same consideration for her personal safety (having to wait around train stations), and five minutes morning and evening won't really make much of a difference to the family, but will make a big difference to the nanny.
If I worked for inflexible family B, I might soon look for another job; one where I felt more valued and appreciated.

@AbbeyBelfast I cannot believe some of the replies on here. Mind boggling.

I can’t believe family b would
Even argue the fact.
It’s 5 mins at the start of the day - 5 mins at the end - barley noticeable! And would make a big difference the nanny’s already long day. Wouldn’t want to work
For them. Doubt she will for much
Longer either,

Family A. Nanny needs to think carefully about working with a family like Family B.

It depends whether you actually need her for that time, or whether you'd rather have an irritated, likely to leave nanny hanging around for 10 mins/day to satisfy your jobsworthy technicality