Nanny starting late, leaving early

So @Whatnameisgood

Are you a b or the nanny

Family B, if you start at 9am you arrive just before then, otherwise you're not ready to actually start work then (plus your train might be late) and you leave at your finish time.

I'm with Family A- it's 10 minutes. If she's a good nanny and I'm happy with her work then it's nothing in the grand scheme of things. Plus it's winter so 20 mins will be awful at those times.

Family b - I'm assuming there's no lunch break she can shorten. A work day is a set length, being flexible with times doesn't mean overall less minutes

If parents are at home then yes allow

If they are at the office so they need to change coming home time then no

When she took the job on , she should have checked train times and not agreed to agreeing to be there 9 if couldn’t make it

Saying all that , a happy nanny means a lot

And 30 mins a week isn’t much

Nanny is BU to say she wants to work less than her contracted hours.

She could have asked to work the 10min less three days a week but to stay until 7:20 the other two days.

So 3x 10 less balanced by 2x 15 more.

The way she did it, it puts the families in the uncomfortable situation of either paying for hours she is not working or risk annoying her.

I would want more info.

A great nanny who has worked a long time, goes the extra mile, is flexible when parents are running late. And the timings make no real difference to the family and their own travel? And nanny has a good reason why those times make a difference. Yes I would accommodate.

On the other hand a new nanny who only does the basics, has a surly attitude, views flex as a one way street and has decided unilaterally to be paid the same for less time. And parents who need to dash out on arrival and skid home for her departure when those extra mins make a difference to what trains they can make? Then no.

Honestly, people these days amaze me. It swings in roundabouts - one day family B might want the nanny to do her a favour, and trust me they will not want to. It works both ways.

Family A are more reasonable. Family B should be aware that nannies are on high demand atm at least in my area they could very easily lose a nanny for such a petty reason

Its 10 minutes a day! Ffs,no wonder so many childcare providers feel so under valued.

I'm surprised people are being this petty.
It is only 5 minutes!

I get the same but the opposite. Parents working from home and come downstairs at dead on my finish time. Then they expect a handover and I'm always leaving late. It is annoying but I just get on with it.

Depends how reliable trains were for the morning one. Will the 9.05 turn into 9.10/9.15 every day because actually they are always running late.

I can't believe people are so petty as to get worked up about 10 minutes.

Happy nanny vs. resentful nanny is right.

I'm a little surprised that so many think its ok nanny asked this tbh.

I would have expected that she ask to either arrive late and stay late or arrive early and leave early. Therefore still working her hours but reducing one waiting time and eliminating another.

Years ago before we drove my DH's bus was every two hours at 4 and 6pm. We did work flexi but the earliest we could finish was 4pm so he could never get that bus. Only once when feeling ill all day did he ask the boss if he could leave five mins early so he could get home 2 hours early. He was told no. Now that was unreasonable.

I really couldn't get worked up over 10 minutes in a 10 hour day. I'd rather my nanny wasn't waiting ages for a train.

Ffs. Quibbling over 10 minutes??

Let her take the trains that are convenient to her. I can't believe this is even a question.

It’s 10 minutes. I’d rather have a happy nanny and a good relationship that when one day a bit of flexibility is needed on their part it’s ok. Clockwatching doesn’t build good relationships.

If it didn't inconvenience me more than it would help her (e.g. I'd have to leave work early) I'd definitely be Family A. But then I view our nanny as part of the family, the same way my parents viewed my nanny, so the Family B attitude is completely alien to me. I find the idea that it's all about rights to this and that, rather than our responsibilities towards each other, rather sad. It's such a race to the bottom.

If I was the nanny I would seriously be considering whether I want to continue working for somebody who has no flexibility over 5 minutes. I bet that family nit pick and niggle over everything.

My concern would be does nanny look after my child/children well and is so she is a very valuable member of my family where 5 minutes is well worth it for a happy nanny who I trust looking after my children.

Exactly what @AbbeyBelfast says.

You’re leaving the nanny responsible for your child. If you begrudge them 10 mins the relationship will never work.

I had nannies for ten years. There will be so much give and take required over the years you really need to pick your battles.

It depends on the Nanny imo. If she is also willing to be flexible when necessary then yes, that’s give and take. But if the 10 mins less each day is the thin end of the wedge and other accommodations start to be expected then I’d be worried about reliability.
I agree with the pp who said why would someone expect a job to include allowances for public transport. Imagine expecting a factory, bank or shop to accommodate this.

I don't think anyone here is being unreasonable, but think a good compromise would be to allow her to leave 5 minutes early. It's a long day plus a commute so as a former Nanny I'd rather be able to get home earlier than get a later train in the morning.

I’d go family A, no liss of pay etc, but would assume the nanny is likely to be more flexible with them if they’re late etc.