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Having toddler at home to save childminder fees

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Blueberry1 · 02/09/2020 09:59

During lockdown, both myself and DP were working from home while looking after our 2 year old. I re-arranged my hours to manage this, but it was intense and exhausting.

Childminder partially re-opened in June doing 3 days a week, so I re-arranged my hours to work 3 full days and 1 shorter day (when toddler was at home). This was much easier than no childcare, but still a bit challenging.

Now childminder is going back to full-time operations, DP wants to keep having 2 year old at home on my shorter working day, rather than being at childminders until 2pm (reduced fee).

This says DP is not to "waste money", pointing out that we managed for several months like this and that the 4th partial childcare day is to my benefit more than this. So either we drop it or I pay more than 50% of additional cost. NB: this is not a question of affordability.

I really don't think this is fair as when toddler is at home, it's my work that get's interrupted more. I want to go back to the pre-pandemic arrangements with childminder, then I can work (from home) more effectively. AIBU?

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Sexnotgender · 03/10/2020 13:53

YANBU. We had 20 month old DS at home for 6 months during lockdown and it was horrific.

jannier · 03/10/2020 13:49

Well done,

Blueberry1 · 02/10/2020 10:54

Update: after my refusal to consider changing arrangement unless hubby agreed to be in charge of toddler all day Friday, we have reverted to previous arrangement where he's at childminder til 2pm then has some Daddy time til I finish work (usually 4pm ish)..

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Blulorry · 02/10/2020 10:31

@Mixingitall

It isn’t fair on a toddler to stay at home, whilst you work, when they could be playing with other children, interacting and having fun.
Exactly this. Your husband is being unfair and tight on you and your child.
Mumtumwobble · 09/09/2020 22:23

How on earth are you going to get any work done! I used to send dc to the childminder on one of my days off so I could do loads of housework etc. They loved going and it meant I could just about keep on top of the housework etc. This wasn’t a ‘waste of money’ so you’re situation definitely isn’t.

Figgygal · 09/09/2020 22:19

You can’t give the necessary to both on a long term basis
During lockdown people had no choice but now you do it’s not in your child’s best interests to do this

Lau52 · 09/09/2020 22:17

Does your DP still work from home? During lockdown I had 1, 7, 13 year old. WFH and DP working self employed. Was most exhausting few months of my life, I couldn’t switch off from work, was doing home learning, toddler and trying to work. Most nights up to midnight catching up and back on laptop again at 7. Kids now back at school and youngest at childminder 3 days. I have Fridays off, DP Monday’s. Works so much better, toddler gets lots of fun at childminders really loves it, I get to feel like a human again. Think of your mental health too, you can’t do both successfully with a toddler. Plus I know my DS socialising and enjoying himself, worth every penny.

BendingSpoons · 03/09/2020 16:53

Vivienne has a good suggestion. Or you could alternate childcare on that extra day. If he can't then why should you.

BendingSpoons · 03/09/2020 16:50

Your DH is being ridiculous. I would see his point if you put him in childcare to go to the gym etc but you are doing it to work. It's really insulting to say it is more for your benefit. Do you not deserve uninterrupted work time but he does? Yes you muddled through when you had to, but this is not a good long term solution for anyone, especially when you can afford it anyway. How you convince your DH of this I'm not sure.

PullTheBricksDown · 03/09/2020 16:46

I agree with @RatInADollhouse. This expecting you to pay extra for what 'benefits you' is really off. I would guess he benefits from your partnership in all sorts of ways that aren't fully 'costed in' like this. Who is the higher earner?

Viviennemary · 03/09/2020 16:46

Tell him to ask for a day working from home to do childcare. He won't. And you shouldn't pay more than half the cost of the child minder.

RedRumTheHorse · 03/09/2020 16:39

OP I think your husband hasn't got the best interests of you and most importantly your joint child at heart.

Your toddler is 2 so needs to socialise, will actually enjoy mixing regularly with other children and will make a friend or two. At the moment baby and toddler groups are closed so apart from other family members' children who else will they be mixing with?

Also they need to have someone whether this is the childminder or the older children they are playing with attention focused on them, not on paid work or housework.

ZenZebra · 02/09/2020 14:22

Another thing to consider is whether the childminder will still be offering part-time places now that they are back full-time. If it's a choice between a part-time place for your DS and another child who needs full-time provision, you may lose your place.

Iminaglasscaseofemotion · 02/09/2020 12:32

So why does he see it as your responsibility to either look after ds or pay for the childminder yourself? Why is it not his responsibility?

Happynow001 · 02/09/2020 12:21

[quote Blueberry1]@Plussizejumpsuit - we pay 50/50. Always have done. DP suggesting I pay more of the "additional" cost (the partial day). DP was also looking after toddler during lockdown (especially when I had endless Zoom type calls), although I did more most of the time.

@lockdownseparation - there isn't really an overriding need to save money.[/quote]
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we pay 50/50. Always have done. DP suggesting I pay more of the "additional" cost (the partial day).
Your child is no less his/his responsibility, financially or otherwise, because they need to go to the childminders so that you can properly focus on your job - the same, I suppose, as him. Does he think you do nothing on your partial day when you are not doing paid work?

If he feels strongly about this maybe he should WFH and work and look after the DC instead of you.

Additionally, is he so laser-focused on other aspect of your lives together? If so, maybe he should be encouraged to step up there too, to keep things a fairer 50/50 between you in all areas. 🌹

mylittlesandwich · 02/09/2020 11:27

My manager (at the time) actually suggested I keep my 9 month old at home and seemed surprised when I told him that wasn't an option as I'd get nothing done. People managed all sorts of things when they didn't have a choice but it was hardly ideal. If your husband wants your child at home then he can look after them.

OverTheRubicon · 02/09/2020 11:24

Tell him you'll lose more money if you can't perform your job to standard and get fired or quit from stress. Or if he keeps being so selfish, divorce is also mightily expensive...

I'd be unimpressed if one of my team had childcare options but was trying to mind a toddler while working to save cash. Either one or both of you adjusts hours, or he pays the childcare too.

Blondeshavemorefun · 02/09/2020 11:19

Managed

Being the word

People have to manage as no other choice

But it’s not fair on your toddler to be ignored or yelled at while you are trying to work

Where is dh on that day

Working at home - not working. - working in office

Use the childcare

Blueberry1 · 02/09/2020 11:19

@Plussizejumpsuit - we pay 50/50. Always have done. DP suggesting I pay more of the "additional" cost (the partial day). DP was also looking after toddler during lockdown (especially when I had endless Zoom type calls), although I did more most of the time.

@lockdownseparation - there isn't really an overriding need to save money.

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Lockdownseperation · 02/09/2020 10:47

It’s not fair on you, your toddler or your work. The only one who seems to benefit is your DP.

If you need to/want to save money could one of you work on a Saturday when the other one is off.

Plussizejumpsuit · 02/09/2020 10:47

I might have misunderstood but why would you personally be paying the childcare? Also why are you the one juggling childcare and work at the same time? Seems like he's being a dick tbh.

MidnightCitrus · 02/09/2020 10:46

either we drop it or I pay more than 50% of additional cost.

WANKER ALERT!!!

If you both want to keep DS at home while you work, then you keep DS home, if you dont want to keep DS at home while you work, then DS goes to childminder. you are the one being affected

MJMG2015 · 02/09/2020 10:43

Jesus Christ - what a twat. He wants you to WFH with a toddler & wont pay half if you don't?

Why are you with this twat?

Blueberry1 · 02/09/2020 10:40

@SueEllenMishke - this is something he has mentioned, but we haven't discussed.

@mixingitall - I did mention this.

And thanks for the point made by several of you in relation to company policy. I don't know what my employers policy is/was, but I can't see my boss being that understanding (like she was in lockdown) if I have toddler at home out of choice.

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EL8888 · 02/09/2020 10:38

If it’s fine for you to do it, then it’s fine for him as well Wink. Long-term it doesn’t sound sustainable to me