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CM Club - Drop Off's..........sometimes making me late for school......

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looneytune · 28/09/2007 10:56

Morning

All mindees who are dropped off with me arrive between 8.15-8.30am (I charge from 8.30 as that's when they want me but I ask them to come around 8.15am, free of charge, to make sure I leave on time). One family do a very quick drop off, no update or anything but at least it's quick and we get to school (well...ds's nursery) on time. The other baby is dropped off perfectly (i.e. quick update but then off) by dad but when mum drops off sometimes it leads to a chat whilst I'm rushing to get ds's teeth brushed, shoes on, maybe lunch finished etc (unfortunately he goes a bit mad when other grown ups are here and doesn't listen to me properly until they've gone).

Yesterday and quite often when she drops off, I end up late dropping ds off. Luckily it's ok as they are very casual at the nursery as no register and being a little late is not a problem. Thing is, I don't want my job making him late and also, I'm going to be doing a school run to pre-school soon and I MUST be on time.

Is it acceptable for me to make a comment about drop offs having to be quick? I have a diary system and welcome parents updating it too but I just don't have time for 10-15 mins of chit chat about what mindee has been doing since last week, I really wish I did but it's the time they drop off which makes this a problem.

This morning mum dropped baby but was very quick and said 'sorry, gotta rush as off to appointment' so I was actually relieved HOWEVER, was also a bit annoyed that my hints yesterday and other days about rushing to get ready are just not registering.

Any advice? Please, I need to sort this but not seem unfriendly at the same time.

Thanks

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bozza · 29/09/2007 21:59

Yes I realise that Maureen. But I don't see how it is more difficult for her to have already made packed lunches by 8.15 than it is for me (especially since I leave the house at 7.20 which is probably why all our packed lunches are made the night before). I actually agree that the packed lunch should be finished by the time the mindee arrived - although things directly involving her DS - cleaning his teeth, putting his shoes on etc - might not be. Just my opnion. But I'm not sure doing down Mums who work in an office is all that helpful.

MaureenMLove · 29/09/2007 07:52

Bozza, I was referring to Clandestine,who said that LT should have her personal things sorted before she starts work. I know people who work out of the home have to do all the same things as cm's, but ultimately, when you actually step into your office, to start your working day, you have no children with you. If children are your job, its a bit much to be expected to be ready every day - impossible in fact!

mogs0 · 28/09/2007 23:38

FF2 - I sadly don't have access to a garden but we have some lovely parks nearby and spend lots of time outdoors. I am able to leave the double buggy in the hallway downstairs during the day then bring it upstairs each evening. Mindees get lots of exercise climbing the stairs!!!!!

bozza · 28/09/2007 21:22

Eh Maureen how is it easy to be organised if you work in an office? I still have to get both my children dressed and breakfasted, DS's book bag/water bottle etc sorted, my own lunch sorted, DS's swimming bag packed if it is Tuesday, a snack/drink/activity for DD while we are at DS's swimming lesson, DS's tea sorted if it is football night, DD's hair done etc etc.

looneytune · 28/09/2007 19:18

I know, that's the day that set off a TERRIBLE week for me!!!! I really didn't want to call SS but I also couldn't ignore it as I'm trained to NOT turn a blind eye. I just wish it hadn't looked like that as it looked exactly how I'd looked once when I got a fag burn on my arm (I was clubbing and knocked into someone).

Anyway....thanks everyone for your advice. I'm off to get ds to bed and then crack open a nice cold beer and watch the soaps

Have a good evening everyone.

LT x

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fireflyfairy2 · 28/09/2007 19:13

Ah that's good then No-one wants to think a child has been hurt

looneytune · 28/09/2007 19:12

Shoshable - well, all my mindees are VERY good talkers

FF - you sound like a lovely parent, unfortunately there are so many that treat us like &*$%! Having said that, this mum who's chatting to me is SOOOO lovely and I haven't got a problem with her, just want to sort this little thing out without sounding horrible! Oh....the ciggy burn......as I kept saying I really didn't think that's what it is but our training tells us we can't ignore these things. After chatting to some other people, we THINK it was probably a slide that gave a friction burn. Very odd they were perfect little circles but other CM's I know said their kids got perfect circles from slides at soft play and when I mentioned to mum, she said she'd been on a slide the day after coming to me plus again at a pub garden over the weekend and I do believe her.

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MaureenMLove · 28/09/2007 19:09

Ah, maybe thats why all my mindees can do salsa and sing alot, Shosh!

MaureenMLove · 28/09/2007 19:07

I've gotta show you this My nomination is for the parent who gave me it. I got it for my birthday, which she never forgets, or DD or DH. I opened it on my own, when I'd had a tough morning with the mindees, they were all asleep and I cried. The words still blow me away. How much does she appreciate me? Well, I do start at 6.15 in the morning for her for the last 6 years!

fireflyfairy2 · 28/09/2007 19:04

LT are you the one who had a mark like a cigarette burn on one of your mindees? Did you ever get to the bottom of it?

Yes, I read some of the childminder threads, as I leave my ds with one & like to get the general idea of what I am/ should/should not be doing

Shoshable · 28/09/2007 19:04

LT if a CM dosnt talk alot how are the children supose to learn to talk

looneytune · 28/09/2007 19:02

PMSL at the talking a lot!!!!

Yes I do but NOT when I'm trying to sort the kids, that's why I'd expect them to take the hint as I'm not my usual chatty friendly self when I'm in a rush!!

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Shoshable · 28/09/2007 19:02

That was spose to be some of mine, and thay all paid me for the two days I had off.

Shoshable · 28/09/2007 19:01

I think we should have aboard of nice parents, FF I nominate you as our first Parent.

Can I nominate one of mine who when I did my back, took me to the hospital, another who brought me dinner, and another who got me to bed. Lovely parents.

looneytune · 28/09/2007 19:00

Thanks everyone.

Mo - you've made me feel sooooooooo much better. I've been a bit sensitive the last couple of weeks (another story) and was starting to think I was a crap mum and crap childminder for being unable to get everything sorted perfectly and on time. Believe me, I try to get ds sorted but he can be a right so and so and plays up more when parents are here. He listens to me MUCH more when he's not showing off!!!!

Oh, and if they aren't here on time then I'm off , but they are not late, just 5 mins before I leave but the chit chat then makes me late iyswim.

Gosh, I do try and be organised but even when the 2 sisters I have are dropped off at 6.45 (like they are again on Monday), you'd think I'd have plenty of time but things never go like clockwork - usually they do a great big poo each around the time I'm putting coats on then I have 2 dirty nappies to rush and change and then re-dress them again and put shoes on. If only you could program children eh!!! (oh gosh....please don't anyone think I'm being horrible for saying that.....IT'S A JOKE!!!)

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StrawberryMartini · 28/09/2007 19:00

Gosh you lot are far too nice - must be my teaching background; I spend approx 30 sec to 1 min 'handover' (used to 30 kids so very matter-of-fact about it). I would also charge from 8am but I'm obviously a miserly b*itch!

And ahem not too sure how to put this LT but seeing as I have met you in RL you.. um... do tend to talk quite a lot as well!!

MaureenMLove · 28/09/2007 18:59

If only all parents were as considerate as you FF. I had one last night, whose son I picked up from after school club at 4.30 and phone when I was on the way to get him to say, her boyfriend was picking him up at 5 and could I make sure he'd had his dinner. We don't get back from school until 4.45! Needless to say his dinner wasn't even ready, when boyfriend, who I'd never even met, arrived at my house! Thankfully, its the nice ones like you that make it all worth it.

fireflyfairy2 · 28/09/2007 18:51

When I drop ds off @ childminder I hand over the bag & coat & tell her he has been fed (he always has been as I have to be up earlier to get dd her breakfast before school)

I then tell her my pick up time (always different as I'm a student with varying hours)

When I pick ds up again she fills me in on what he & other mindees have been up to.

Some days when I pick ds up she is making her dh's dinner so I grab ds & go. Usually she will strap him into the car, kiss & wave.

But as I say, if she is making dinner/starting her kids homework, I say "I'll let you get on, no, don't come out!"

Mogs0 Don't take this the wrong way, but where I am, there are no registered childminders working from flats, as everyone seems to want their children to have a garden to run around in! How do you overcome this? and do you have buggies to carry up & down 2 flights of stairs?

Shoshable · 28/09/2007 18:50

If it wasnt the child that I take to school, that is late, I would go and thay would have to wait.

I dont know thw answer to this one, if anyone does will you tell me pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease.

MaureenMLove · 28/09/2007 18:42

Thinking about it actually, I did have one that was perpetually late. I used to take the child off her and put her straight in my pram, which was already outside the front door! It didn't take long before she was calling me onthe way, to say she was going to be late, so she'd sit outside and wait for me to come back from school! Its not unreasonable to tell them that you have to get ds to nursery on time, afterall at some point it will be her lo that you need to get to school on time. BTW, in your op you said, it doesn't matter if ds is a bit late - it does! Stop being so nice!

MaureenMLove · 28/09/2007 18:37

Frankly, anyone who has school aged children and says they are sooo organised every morning, and their children are all angels and do everything they did to do without being told 15 times, is a blardy liar imho! Its easy to be organised if you leave the house to go to work - you walk into your office and the kids aren't there! If your place of work is at home, like ours, you cannot expect to be ready every day.

looneytune · 28/09/2007 18:32

In fairness the packed lunch was just yesterday and I shouldn't have mentioned it as that's not really the problem. I also TRY and make sure ds has had his breakfast but not always that easy. BUT....STILL...I will be having children dropped off at 8am soon and they will be having breakfast so what do I do then? I want this sorted now so that this doesn't happen when I have mindees I'm being paid to get to school in time.

As for carrying on my jobs, that's what I do - act rushed, hurry ds along, say we're going to have to go in a minute but then she carries on chatting

As for coming in, yes they do and because it's a tiny porch now, they come into the lounge. The thing is, I have food and bottles to get out of baby's bag and put in my fridge in the dining room plus put a jacket on baby if needed as quite often it's not on as they just come out of the car. So, arriving 5 mins before I'm supposed to leave and then chit chatting whilst i sort all that just always ends up with me being late. If they came at 8.15 and did a normal handover of info I should know then I'd be fine

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mogs0 · 28/09/2007 17:59

My drop offs start at 8am and I try to make sure that ds' packed lunch is done and that he is dressed and had breakfast before anyone else arrives. Does the Mum come inside when she drops off? Maybe if you just carry on doing the jobs you need to do while she's chatting she'll get the hint that you're busy.

My flat is on the 2nd floor so no-one ever wants to come inside in the mornings!!

looneytune · 28/09/2007 12:22

Thanks Bozza, pleased to see another non CM who understands what I mean Yes, that's is EXACTLY what I need at drop off time: if they slept funny, what food is in the bag, any changes to routine/milestones etc. it doesn't have to take long at all - when dad does it he gives me the facts I need then rushes off. I'd welcome a chit chat at pick up. If anything I usually get all parents rushing off as they want to get home but I always chat about the day as handing over (then shut up if they don't want to know as it's in the book ).

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looneytune · 28/09/2007 12:18

Shosh - nightmare, I do get mindees who arrive with nappies that need changing, teeth need brushing etc. but I don't have to do all what you have to! I do know what you mean about lovely families though and not wanting to change for the world - this is EXACTLY how I feel about this family and it's because we get on so well that she chats like that and confides in me. I feel bad if I look busy sorting stuff out. Think the way to go is definitely as newsletter then hopefully all will be well again

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