Is your nanny returning now?

I think it’s best to try and follow what you can

Obv with one loo then wipe down area before /after

Own towel - colours work well or nanny remover here and in a bag

Tbh if working in a home 10+ hrs a day if one of you get c the others prob will

Thi saying that. My neighbour had c really bad in March. 3w if illness

Yet hubby and twins daughterS in 20’s didn’t

Thanks for this. Its going to be difficult in practical terms to apply all this guidance. I know it would be ideal to follow it all but if the home only has 1 bathroom for example its going to be a challenge. Will employers or nannies still be covered by liability insurance even if they cannot follow all the guidance, does anyone know?

Please see attached a risk assessment that we have been sent by BAPN which you should go through with your nanny/employer to make sure you are all comfortable with the new arrangements that can be put in place.

Along with these measures, I am suggesting that you should also undertake the following where possible, this is just a guide and you should adjust so applicable for every household;

Where possible a separate toilet and sink should be provided for the nanny's sole use

Separate hand towel (clean 1 each day) (nannies you may wish to provide the towel)

Nannies- wash hands upon arriving at work as soon as you arrive and everyone to wash hands regularly

Temperatures to be taken before leaving for work/before the nanny arrives of both adults and children

Any temperature and the nanny should not be at work same applies if anyone shows any other symptoms

Social distancing- obviously the nanny can't social distance from the children but all adults must social distance ie not be in the same room together unless you are 2m apart so rooms such as kitchens, should be used at different times

Nannies- it is being advised that you change your clothes as soon as you arrive home, put them in the wash, clean clothes every day

Shoes should not be worn in the house

Nannies- some nannies are preferring to provide their own lunch, mug, plate and cutlery

Nannies- sanitise your hands after leaving work before you drive home.

Employers- please see note on risk assessment re cars.

Employers- if you have a cleaner please try to not have the cleaner there when the nanny is, as this is another person who the nanny would then be in contact with, who may well have been in contact with other people in other homes.

At all times the government guidelines should also be followed eg mixing of households, social distancing etc.

This link might help

working safely in homes

For anyone whose nanny has gone back to work, what type of cleaning or other additional measures have you taken in your home? I'm in Scotland so still in lockdown for another week but trying to plan ahead for a return to work. Many thanks

Our nanny has been back for 2 weeks now. I can actually breath, work and not worry about my toddler having an accident. We furloughed and topped up for the 6 weeks she was off, but it broke us and was dangerous.
It was impossible to get much done with 3 children to look after, so I considered unpaid leave or even quitting I was that tired and desperate.

If she hadn’t returned, we would have had to get a temporary nanny, which in reality would have meant we’d have got rid of her.

It’s going ok and I’m hoping the relationship is repairing.

@2kool4skool I totally get your anger. I was there. You only have to look at the nanny chat groups to see the frenzy that some nannies have got themselves into - even the ones working throughout this are fed up of the mass hysteria.

Those saying they won’t go back until whenever ‘it’s safe’ seriously need to get a grip. When exactly do they think this will be?! A vaccine realistically won’t be available for 18 months. We don’t yet have a reliable treatment.

The risk for a nanny is low compared to so many other professions (assuming 1 family, no public transport) and why do they think they are any different to millions of others having to work?! They should try speaking to the shop keepers, the carers, NHS frontline, factory workers. etc.

It’s insane! Some are considering an employee blacklist for parents who didn’t furlough, they’re setting up petitions etc. I’m speechless!

Our nanny is furloughed and we are topping up to 100% of her salary. Her contract with us finishes soon and we are both working from home so are covering home schooling. I am worried about keeping her and her children (who she brings with her) safe as her employer and concerned about mixing households.

@living thats good, its all sorted :)

I just wanted to update as there have been some less than generous comments about nannies on this thread and I'm afraid I've contributed. I spoke to our nanny this afternoon and she's coming back next Tuesday. Turns out we were at complete cross purposes. She thought we weren't keen for her to come back and was worried we were going to let her go because we were managing so well. Hence the odd tone in her messages. So she was actually relieved when I came out and asked her. I feel terrible for having doubted her!

Thanks Nannynick. Il see what’s announced tomorrow then have a chat with both employers again.

Thanks kale - I know you’re right that the risks are small and that at some point a level of risk (to us at least) will just have to be accepted.

Before the Kawasaki thing was flagged up I wasn’t too worried about the kids but now of course I’ve homed in on that, even though it looks To be very rare. Ideally would rather DH and I didn’t get covid either - we’re statistically low risk but you never know if you’re going to get complications I guess.

I think my anxiety is colouring my view - rationally I know we have to do something, but it’s hard to ignore the nagging thoughts about it.

Sorry for slightly detailing the thread OP!

@bumblenbean the risks to your children are really vanishingly small - really. I'm afraid that you might have to accept some risk as you can't keep the children inside your house for well over a year (I work in health research and the likelihood of a vaccine in September is remote). Statistically your children would be more at risk cycling to the park. Having another person come into your house would of course raise the risk to you and your partner as adults you are more at risk - but then assuming no one is shielding and your nanny stays home as soon as showing any symptoms again you may find the risk is tolerable. Your choice of course.

Hi blondes we furloughed her at the start as none of us were crystal clear on the guidance and we all wanted to minimise risk.

We did actually pay for her to have an antibody test as she was really ill in February, but sadly negative result so she hasn’t had it.

Temp is a good idea but I guess there would still be risk as you wouldn’t know what they were doing outside of work and also the kids are very attached to our nanny (they’re only 1 and 2 so would be hard to build a relationship from scratch for a short period).

Nightmare

There is nothing definitive about going to multiple jobs, or about children attending multiple childcare settings.

It is something that DfE and Ofsted are possibly looking at, as it has come up with regard to people providing wrap around care such as a childminder taking/collecting children from school. Early years workers having other work as well.

Ideally I suppose people only do one job and children only attend one setting but in reality that is not always what happens.

@bumblenbean is your nanny furloughed due to high risk

Can you get a temp in. Or don’t want to do that

Or maybe get her tested to see if a carrier

@nannynick can you help

Nick is like a bloodhound

He will be able to find a link

Thanks Blondes.
I did have a look on the gov website (I should have said sorry) but could only see childcare information relating to England. I am in Scotland.

Was just curious if anyone else has had an issue as I’m so worried about not being able to go back to both jobs if it is just one household.
I can’t afford to only be working for one family.

I’m in a real quandary about this.

Our nanny is currently furloughed but now happy and keen to return. In many ways we’re desperate to have her back, not least because working 2 jobs whilst looking after two toddlers is nigh-on impossible.

But I’m really worried about the risks - nanny lives with a frontline hospital worker and also has a second PT caring job. I know statistically the risks to kids is low but I feel like I shouldn’t be putting them in harm’s way if it can be avoided.

That said, the current juggling is unsustainable and I can’t see the virus going anywhere for a long time... I just don’t know what to do!

I think Advice was one household

Tho that was at the beginning when Nannies were still working regardless

May be diff now

Maybe look on gov site

I have been furloughed but my bosses know I am happy to come back as soon as they need me. I’m desperate to go back!

My only worry is that I work for two different families so not sure if this will still be feasible.

Is anyone else currently working for two families as normal and if so how are you going about it in terms of the risks with mixing households?
I have my own car, go to shop once a week and live alone so fairly low risk I think

Ours has said from the outset she will take our lead and is genuinely happy to come in whenever we need her. We've muddled through 10 weeks nearly of DH and both FT work with primary aged children, and it has nearly broken us, but none of us have got ill so that's the main goal achieved.
Our plan is to bring her back after half term, by which point hopefully infection rates will have had another 10 days to drop and we'll know if there is looking like a second wave.
I will hide in my office desperately trying to catch up on work the entire time she's here. Also think we'll ask her to bring her own mug/water bottle/hand towel etc.
I also would like to have her back and settled in case we decide not to send DC back to school if we are offered a place in late June/early July - really can't make up my mind about that right now.

Why are you paying her in full

You need your nanny to work

If she is refusing then sack her

Other nannies are working. Could always work

If she is shielding then ssp

She will make her choice

But the idea that a nanny's job is in any way less valuable than your own is pretty grim.
I don't think I said that, I certainly don't think that. To the contrary, to me her job is as equally important as mine. I need her to do her job so I can do mine. If she doesn't, I can't do mine and I don't get paid. But I still have to pay her not to work.....that's the issue. My annoyance comes from her thinking that's a fair situation.

@2kool4skool I take your point that a nanny demanding full pay while refusing to work isn't right. You probably need to give her the choice of either returning to work or taking redundancy. But the idea that a nanny's job is in any way less valuable than your own is pretty grim.

I'm lucky to have been furloughed but I know my family value and respect me and my choices. I'm not "staff" I'm an employee and deserve to be treated as such

And if I'm paying someone to care for my kids so I can work, how do I work when she doesn't come in?
Do you also consider a nursery isn't "work"?

What do other parents call it when they don’t have a nanny?

Unemployment for the nanny