Nannies (or nanny employers can answer) are you still working for non key workers?

I haven’t directly asked outright, I’ve really wanted them to suggest it as I feel such a loyalty to them to do a good job. They say they’d need to take unpaid leave if I wasn’t going in.

@Excited101 have you suggested it to them

Or they really do need you so they can work

I’m still in every day, non key workers. I’d much prefer furlough.

We agreed that our nanny would stay at home on full pay during the initial three weeks of lockdown. As it happens I became symptomatic with what I'm fairly sure is CV during that time so as part of it we are also observing our 14 days SI. If my nanny did not want to return, we would do our best to maintain her on full pay if we could, but in fact she really wants to, so I hope we will see her again in a few weeks. She is not vulnerable and does not live with anyone vulnerable, and we will drive her back and forth so she doesn't have to take public transport.

Nanny still on full pay and we agreed she wouldnt come in since last monday. My nannys actually not happy about this but agreed.

Now I myself have been asked to take a temporary pay cut on same hours, and DH will be asked to do reduced pay AND time. So as if wfh is not tricky enough we will be significantly worse off in next few months.

If we dont know for sure about reclaiming from hmrc by end of April (I know it should be possible but who knows eh) we definitely have to let her go.

We had a lot of debate about this with our nanny - she lives on her own and can walk to work, and wants to work to avoid getting lonely. We also would love her to keep coming in as I am tearing my hair out trying to combine MA studies with a boisterous toddler and 10 month old baby. DH is full on wfh.
However, neither of us are key workers and we want to keep everyone as safe as possible. The government wording is definitely open to interpretation so it’s hard. In the end we decided (our nanny included) that she would not come in, just because if one of us did get a bad dose - whether that’s us or our nanny - it would be a massive regret that we just didn’t keep things as safe as possible. We want to look back at this crazy time and say that we did the right thing...

Ah cool. No probs :)

Thanks blondes but I am still on full pay. I know I am very lucky. But I am doing 4 hours a day 5 days a week with them over Skype. And normally I do 3 x 12 hour days so although I am doing less hours they are still getting a Significant amount of help.

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@bjonesreborn if you are on furlough you can’t work for the family or do activities

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I have many friends who are still working and not all key workers

The family won’t furlough as hmrc hasn’t confirmed nanny employers will def get the 80%. Tho should as nanny’s are paye

If they don’t work they don’t get paid and won’t be getting the 80%

I’m still working. I’m a Maternity nurse - been with the family Few weeks before this Happened

Mum hasn’t been out since birth

Both are key workers

I’m self employed as a mn (was a nanny for 20yrs)

And tbh if I don’t work I get 80% of net profits over past 3yrs - which isn’t a lot

Where as employed get 80% gross salary

Ours has not been coming but I think she is going to move in with us for a while and we'll see how we all get on. It's that or cut our hours and she seems keen to come and play here rather than stay at home.

We’re out of our 14 day isolation and we’re struggling to work and take care of a baby and 3 year old. But our nanny is in her 60s and her husband is in his 70s so not at all comfortable with the risk for her family. We'll pay her as normal for however long it lasts and hope we can claim the 80%.

That's really helpful @Pidgythe2nd

The 2m rule is only ‘where possible’ according to gov.uk.
It’s obviously not possible in some professions (eg. Care, nannying, shop) so not an absolute requirement.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others/full-guidance-on-staying-at-home-and-away-from-others#going-to-work

We are the same as @WellTidy.

At least one of us is working from 6am until 11pm.

Not key workers and per employment guidelines we cannot enforce any sort of social distancing so we have determined she cannot come to work per government guidelines.

She is on full pay at the moment but if we cannot furlough we will reassess. Our children are young but maybe there is something she could do on Skype or something.

The schedule we're on is exhausting and means DH and I don't really speak to each other before bed time but can't complain!

She is not 'effectively the same household'. She lives with her family who are all individually going to the shops and doing their daily exercise. We would double the size of our 'household' if we let our nanny come to work.

As employers we cannot follow government guidance on required social distance therefore we deem that her workplace does not meet current HSSE requirements (if we're looking at it formally!)

Yes, I'm still working for non key workers. They wfh and 1 parent is particularly busy at the moment. 2 children - 1 with sn, so really wouldn't get much done if they had to tag team. We talked it through as it's a grey area over whether nannies should be working or not. They and I are staying at home and apart from 1 household shopping trip each so far (where we gloves etc) we haven't had contact with anyone else.

@Bienentrinkwasser added to that is the fact that many nannies are exposing themselves travelling to and from work on public transport, not all nannies have cars

No, a live out nanny is not a member of your household. They live in a different house. If the parents aren’t key workers there is no way the nanny should be at work. Households are not supposed to mix.

Surely a nanny (even non live in) is basically a member of your household and has sufficient prior contact with your children that the 2m rule need not apply. Common sense.

I’m a nanny to 2 school age children. Parents aren’t key workers so I’m at home. However I am doing 2 Skype sessions a day with the kids. They read to me, do their spellings and I helped them with any work they’re doing.
I’m also researching activities and worksheets they can do and sending them over to the mum so she doesn’t have to trawl the internet for ideas.
Parents get uninterrupted work time and I can still see the children and feel like I’m doing my bit.
Obviously this doesn’t work for younger children but worth a thought for anyone with older ones.
Never thought I’d be able to work from home , it’s a revelation’n

Our nanny is still coming at the moment. We made sure she felt comfortable - we wouldn't force her and had a long chat after Boris's big announcement. She also took advice on whether she could continue to work and the answer was yes. We are both flat out with work and if one of us couldn't work we could and would pay her salary for a little while but couldn't do it indefinitely.

Other than going to the shops (taking hygiene measures) and for socially distant walks we haven't been out for a couple of weeks, so her chances of catching anything from us are minimal.

I work 2 days a week, and work toddler goes to nursery 2 days a week. One parent is a key worker, other working from home.
Nursery have given option of increasing days for key workers, and I was given the option of carrying on as usual, or staying at home as toddler will possibly catch virus at nursery. I offered to work extra hours so toddler could stay safe at home and this was refused as the nursery had to be paid in any case, and they wanted to keep the place.
As far as I know, I'm not being paid, (only paid for hours I work) although they are wanting me to go back afterwards.

Nanny is not working. I'm on maternity leave so we don't need her. Paying 80% but if we are able to claim this back will top up to 100%.

Our nanny isn’t working. Neither DH nor I are key workers do we told her not to come. We are both working from home and taking it in turns to work and look after the children. Between 6am and 11pm, one of us is working. Paying her in full and hoping that we can claim the 80% for furlough. Even if we can’t, we will still pay her in full for the next few weeks and then reassess.

Yep, still going to work every day. Parents wfh. Most parents are unlikely to offer to the nanny to stay at home for a couple of weeks while paying her a full salary.