losing my first mindee - to an unregistered childminder

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Sorry to see that you're having problems with your mindees and their parents, but glad to see you're feeling better.

So if that is the case then maximummy only needs to bide her time and these people will most likely come back. If she's filled her places by then, then that's unfortunate for the parents and their children.
And although there are contracts, it is possible for all the things you mention to still go wrong for some registered childminders and parents, in which case notice on either side would be worked or negotiated.

juuule I know alot of people who have used unregistered friends. IT DOSNT WORK, dosnt matter how well you know them, how good they are with you child. You do not have the safe guard if things go wrong, and they do go wrong, The person looking after child suddenly decides they want time off, decides it is to much hard work, finds that it compromise's their friendship, their kids dont get on, a different attitude in raising children, child has accident and working parent has to have alot of time off, who is going to pay her wage if no insurance.

Who is going to supply the double buggy, car seat, cot, what happens if it gets broken.

Believe me all the things and more happen, I have had parents turn up at my door at 7 in the morning because of all these disputes looking for childcare.#

registered Child care is under contract, its insured and we are trained, that is why you should use it.

I can understand choosing a registered minder if you don't know people but I can't understand the insistence on being registered if you know someone well and trust them. Surely a parent should be able to use their own judgement on some things. Obviously not a good idea if the deciding factor is purely financial and not taking into account the children's needs.
And yes, I do know it's illegal to not be registered and look after a non-relative for more than 2 hours a day in your own home. I just think that sometimes a bit of common-sense should come into it.

Is te inregistred woman definitely getting payment for looking after the children?

I don't but you don't have the same assurances as when they are registered.

How do you know they aren't police checked? The mum's friend isn't registered (yet, so might be in the process), but she may be police checked for something else. A

If you report her then they'll know it was you but I'd still do it. It's illegal and children could be harmed, as they aren't police checked you never know.

Yes, that's right (am fast as waiting for mindee to tidy the things away that were thrown in temper!)

I think that a nanny can volunteer to go on ofsteds register although it's not compulsory (nannynick will correct if I'm wrong)

Thanks Henni. Fast!
Ok, so nannies don't need to be registered then. And childminders are those who mind children in their own home.
Appreciate the help.

Tricey, if the person involved worked in the families home then they would be considered a nanny. However, if they were working in their own home then yes they would need to be registered as a childminder. It is illegal to look after other peoples children in your own home for more than two hours aday for any kind of payment. HTH

Maximum - A question for you and the others here...
Is someone who works for a family for 8-10 hours a day and 5 to 6 days a week also supposed to be registered? Are they considered childminders? Thanks.

Sad if you and your ds are going to miss him but part of the job, I would think. Your ds will meet up with him again at nursery from what your say, and they'll probably be glad to see each other. Perhaps you could invite him over for tea or something.
Parents choose for their children to go to where it is best for them and their families. This family think this is a better arrangement for them. I don't think it would be very professional of you to sabotage their plans by reporting their friend unless you have concerns about the children's safety. And you never know if you have been fair with the family then if things don't work out they might come back to you anyway.

Glad I'm not the only one who would report hehe it's because of this childminders get a bad name and everybody thinks it's an easy life hardest thing I've ever done (Uni, supervisor in Asda ect I used to be normal lol)

my mindee that i have had for 4yrs is leaving to go to his friends house after school each night
so she is a sort of un reg childminder
feeling sad bout it but hey ho

I would like to second what kay said- so many chilminders work so hard to vget where they are, its unfair and unregistered should take your mindee. Outrageous! Report her!

I would report the unregistered childminder too, but not because I wanted mindee back (his parents have shown they don't respect your proffesionalism anyway by choosing an unregistered carer for their children), but because it is my biggest bug bear.

Unregistered carers are not police checked (nor are their partners), not insured, not inspected by anyone - and always make the newspapers when things go wrong - giving registered childminders a bad name! Plus they usually charge less and parents go to them as they would rather save a few quid a week than put their kids welll being first! (That's how it is in my area anyway!)

Report them, they won't give out your details, and then move on.

I'm a bitch (but in line with regulations) I would report this un-reg childminder [smile}

OOH! Gutting! (BIg HUg) tried to leave long cheering messsage but had probs logging on and that was at 11.30 last night. so here goes short reply as im off to bed. Stay professional, and you never know she may have to come back with both of them soon as unregistered childcare can have its own problems. good luck and head up.

It put me off looking after children of friends and friends of ds actually, had thought about offering as ds1's best friend needs someone to go to for an hour after nursery, but i can imagine it becoming a nightmare for me when they weren't talking