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Coronavirus- can nanny still work?

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ChloeR81 · 18/03/2020 17:43

Hi, hope I’m not duplicating a thread but I couldn’t find one.

I have a lovely nanny who comes 2 days a week. Where do we stand regarding isolation etc? Can she refuse to come to work when we’re all well? At what point would she be able to not come to work, e.g. what level of official lockdown etc.

Want to be totally fair to her and follow the rules, but equally if I don’t have childcare I can’t work and earn money to pay her. Thanks, it’s so difficult to navigate

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ChloeR81 · 25/03/2020 17:09

Wow, suing your employer if you get Coronavirus...this has definitely made me feel that it’s just not worth the risk of keeping our nanny if this is how people are thinking. Isn’t it projected 60% of the UK will get it at some point?

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TheWayOfTheWorld · 25/03/2020 17:03

What are you views on nannies doing some work from home during this time? Eg video calls to read stories/listen to reading/practice maths and spellings?

LottieBees19 · 25/03/2020 16:54

The health and safety at work act says employers must provide a safe working environment. The government have said that anyone going to work must maintain social distancing of 2 m.
So if families are not key workers themselves then you could argue a nanny is not essential.
My family will be suing my nanny family if I become ill/die for not providing a safe working environment.

Whatthefunk · 25/03/2020 13:51

Does anyone else feel really down about this situation? I'm a nanny, not working for key workers. My NF are isolating at the moment, but expect ne back in, next week. My husband is a key worker, so he has to work, and I just feel that with him mixing with other people, and the fact that it's impossible to follow social distancing with the tiny children at work, we're caught between a rock and a hard place...

Bringonspring · 24/03/2020 20:33

That extra guidance is helpful

ChloeR81 · 24/03/2020 20:24

There has been some clarity on this today which is great. Hancock (Health Secretary) has said people who can’t work from home absolutely should go to work, as we need to keep the country running (lead article on BBC news website).

Also had an email from NannyPaye today saying the same, that Nannies should still be going to work under the new guidelines.

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Bringonspring · 24/03/2020 19:49

Hmmm it’s says ‘suggest’

The information we have suggests that all employers (who have a PAYE scheme) will be eligible for the Coronavirus Job retention scheme. HMRC will reimburse 80% of furloughed workers wage costs (up to a cap of £2,500 per month).

LottieBees19 · 24/03/2020 19:41

@sparkyseal
Nanny tax are saying you can claim the 80 percent as nanny paid under PAYE

Childcarehelp · 24/03/2020 19:35

Our nanny payroll company has said we are likely to be able to claim the 80% as employers of nannies but they are waiting to confirm.

SparklySeal · 24/03/2020 18:38

Thanks for sharing. I told my nanny not to come in the end and got little work done.

Checking with payroll co but doubt I can claim the 80% as I'm not a business.

Considering asking my nanny to take paid + unpaid leave for 3 weeks or even letting her go immediately with full notice pay. I dont want to at all but if I cant work I cant afford her + what looks to be prolonged school closures and likely a long time before I can find a job my level again + I need to sort childcare for DH to keep his job...

GracieMouse1969 · 24/03/2020 18:22

I'm a nanny for two heart doctors who are poised to go back into front line services. They say in a matter of days/ weeks there'll be a swathe of people needing hospital beds and the NHS will break. They are taking this very seriously and are only wanting me to work when they literally have to. That means they're paying me to stay at home but when they get THAT call (that they both have to go in at the same time) - I will too! I'll have a foot in two homes and that scares me....
My advice would be to only have your nanny come if you are a Keyworker. All the while people are still moving about the virus will keep spreading and we'll be in this situation for longer than we need to. Every single time you let her step into the house you're cross contaminating the germs that might be breeding. Remember it takes 14 days for symptoms to occur and she might have picked up the virus out and about shopping, seeing her boyfriend, kissing her own auntie, taking money off a counter in the local shop, taking the letter off the mat in her home that morning, packing the shopping away that's she's taken delivery off from the tesco man ...It's that easy.
My bosses are desperately trying to protect their household as well as trying to protect me and my family. I'm immensely grateful that they're thinking of me in this way.
Todays briefing talked about STAYING IN YOUR FAMILY UNIT so if I were you I'd be thinking very very seriously as to whether you want to take the risk of cross contaminating. Morally, is it fair to keep expecting your nanny to step out of HER family unit to come into yours??? If you're not one of the ones who're on the list of keyworkers - don't put her in the position.

SparklySeal · 24/03/2020 08:14

How about pay? What is the difference from a disease spreading persepctive if nanny drives and has been with kids only for past few days ?

Everyone might lose my job if nanny doesnt work

cloudchaos · 24/03/2020 07:44

Is it possible to link to the notice @LottieBees19 ?

We told our nanny to stay at home last night for the foreseeable. We haven't been out as a family for weeks, but I think she has been out socially and her husband is a key worker so I'm more worried about her bringing something into the home. But if this is the advice, I'm now not sure what to do for the best.

LottieBees19 · 24/03/2020 07:40

Update
This morning BAPN have said nannies can work. But urge nanny families to consider nannies health.

Hugglespuffed · 23/03/2020 23:45

Yes it sucks. Yes it goes against everything I believe in as a hard worker who never takes time off work. But these are unprecedented times. Millions of parents are having to juggle childcare and working from home at the moment and the advice is really simple. Stay at home. So nannies should not be travelling between homes unless both parents are key workers and arent able to juggle their shifts.

Hugglespuffed · 23/03/2020 23:43

He did not say to go to work if you can't work from home, he said to only travel to work if essential.
I'm a nanny. My families have all said don't come in. Why would they? If one or both parents are working at home then it is not essential for a nanny to be travelling from one home to another. The advice is pretty obvious.

LottieBees19 · 23/03/2020 23:08

The message is on the members area of BAPN
I expect you will see more clarification in next few days.
Childminders were closed this week, their association and Ofsted said they could only open for key workers.
Nannies will be the same.
The message is stay at home.
Unless essential
Unless you are a key worker your work is not essential.
The nanny will be mixing with her nanny family. So potential to share virus between the families.

ChloeR81 · 23/03/2020 22:42

Yes, nothing said about key workers, the rule is ‘you can continue to travel to work if you can not work from home’

assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/874714/Full_guidance_on_staying_at_home_and_away_from_others.pdf

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Bringonspring · 23/03/2020 22:40

My nanny is working, but we will collect her and take her home.

HandyGirl76 · 23/03/2020 22:37

Following!

pumpingRSI · 23/03/2020 22:33

Urgh urgh feckity feck. Can agree not to do any exercise outside or go to the shops if my nanny can still come, pleeeease?!!

Bringonspring · 23/03/2020 22:31

He didn’t say anything about key workers in his speech

Bringonspring · 23/03/2020 22:31

You are able to travel to work if you are unable to work from home and it is a necessity. Boris Johnson was pretty clear on this

Flowerpot30 · 23/03/2020 22:29

LottieBees19
Can you post the link to this as I can’t find it on the BAPN’s website