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My au pair manhandled my dog.... is it gross misconduct?

211 replies

MissionImplausible · 21/02/2020 13:28

We have a camera in the house to keep an eye on the dog whilst we are at work. It's been off for a week or so but I put it back on today and it caught my au pair kicking our dog to get her out of her bed for a wee and then, when the dog didn't move, grabbing her by the collar to lift her clean off her feet and throwing her outside!!!

The au pair has been with us for over a year and knows about the camera but not that it was working again.

I am disgusted and want her out of my house straight away for what I see as gross misconduct - how can I trust her with my child (who is 10yrs old?) BUT a colleague who is playing devils advocate is suggesting a final warning is more appropriate as she has been with us for so long and we've not experienced this before (although perhaps it happens away from the doggy cam?)

Any opinions?

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SauvignonBlanche · 22/02/2020 15:04

Hope OP’s busy giving the AP the boot.

YappityYapYap · 22/02/2020 14:59

It's not gross misconduct OP. It's someone abusing your pet in your own home and you have every right to kick her out on her arse right now without giving it a name. She isn't an employee, she is a guest that does chores and childcare in return for a free room. You don't have to follow guidlines as an employer for this kind of arrangement

Sneezer · 22/02/2020 14:56

Please come back and update?

Fifthtimelucky · 22/02/2020 08:34

Whilst I agree that this is a sacking offence, I would worry about throwing the au pair out immediately.

She is a young woman in a foreign country. She has been with the OP over a year and would have been feeling settled there. If thrown out immediately, where would she go? Does she have enough money to get home or to stay in a hotel for a few nights while she is sorting out her journey or look for another position?

Despite the au pair's behaviour, because she is an au pair rather than an employee, it seems to me that the OP has a responsibility to ensure that she does not put her in a vulnerable position.

TheQueenBeyondTheWall · 21/02/2020 22:24

I've been watching this op as we got a puppy this weekend.

Dogs are just trusting of you. They literally see the good in everyone.

Hope you are ok.

You have a difficult conversation to have but your nanny has behaved appallingly.
Xx

Ivysaurus · 21/02/2020 19:57

Poor doggy, extra cuddles for him tonight. She needs sacking this weekend for sure, this won't be the first time she's done this.

Aloe6 · 21/02/2020 19:18

I’d feel sick to my stomach knowing that had happened. Yes, instant dismissal.

NewName54321 · 21/02/2020 19:16

Dismiss her. If you found her via an agency, let them have a copy of the Video footage so she doesn’t get the chance to do the same again on their watch.

FourDecades · 21/02/2020 18:13

I'm not an animal person but l wouldn't stand for that. Nasty woman

Kittykat93 · 21/02/2020 18:10

Cant believe you're even asking this op!!! Of course you should sack her, she's abusing your dog.

elliemcx · 21/02/2020 18:03

grab her by the scruff and throw her out, see how she likes it!!!!

Mombie2016 · 21/02/2020 18:00

Sack the bitch. Fuck knows how many other times shes done similar.

WinterCat · 21/02/2020 17:49

Dismissal and reporting to the RSPCA here as well.

LuluJakey1 · 21/02/2020 17:46

She would leave my house immediately- and I would be hard pushed not to land her one. I have never hit anyone in my life but I know how angry I would be.

ThroughThickAndThin01 · 21/02/2020 17:42

Get rid, she’s at home with your poor dog.

chugga · 21/02/2020 17:40

OP, I'd have been round home when I seen that video and flung her out on her arse, fire her immediately and go to the police.

chugga · 21/02/2020 17:39

@SoloMummy I don't know what planet your on but I have 2 dogs and I have never and would never kick them out of bed to go for a toilet, I wouldn't even tap them dogs know when they need to go for a toilet and if they were showing signs of needing out then I'd encourage them to go I'd never attempt to kick them out of bed though and even (I'm really, REALLY trying to see your point here) if I did tap, TAP not kick my dog to get out of bed if my dogs were disinterested I wouldn't then grab them by the collar to try and force them out. I don't know what people you know but it's wrong to do that regardless. As for looking after the dog, it probably will be in her contract or will have been discussed otherwise there would have been no reason for her to be attempting to get the dog outside for the loo, which she could have done without using any force at all. You look for the body language that the dogs are doing, they'll let you know when they want out, they won't be sitting in their bed minding their own business and then getting harassed to go outside by getting kicked and then lifted by the collar. Disgusting @SoloMummy shame on you

MartiniDry · 21/02/2020 17:30

"Plenty of dog owners do as you have described op...."

What sort of people do you mix with, SoloMummy? Normal people do not treat their dogs or any other pet as the OP has described.

MissionImplausible, you're perfectly right, legally and morally, to dismiss the woman with immediate effect. She should consider herself lucky that she's not my au pair for if she was she would be leaving in the same way in which she caused my dog to go out of the door. You would be wise to contact the police, the agency through which she came if there was one, and to ensure that she is never employed in a position of trust with animals or children again.

If she's been in your employment for a year I would suspect that this is not the first time she's treated your dog like this.

Whynosnowyet · 21/02/2020 17:17

A man caught on cctv punching his ddog was prosecuted and banned for 10 years from owning a ddog.Worth reporting imo.
As seen on Dog Rescuers recently..

Runnerduck34 · 21/02/2020 17:13

I have two dogs that I love to bits but I think without actually seeing the footage we can't completely judge.
Was it a nudge with her foot or a violent kick? Presumably the dog must be small if she can lift up. did she throw it out violently or pick it up and put it outside, perhaps with the dog wiggling and jumping out of her arms? I say that because sometimes I've put my cats out if they've caught something or about to be sick, even used the term quick throw the cat out! I definitely dont hurl the cat out like a rugby ball , but with cat wiggling it might look like I've dropped it out the door rather than placed it gently on the ground!

why was aupair putting dog out in first place, does the dog have a history of having accidents in the house and has she been told to make sure it goes out? Of course you are within rights to terminate her contract , perhaps a safer route would be to get a dog sitter and a nanny or child minder .

TheShepherdsCrown · 21/02/2020 17:04

Delighted that you are going to get rid of this abusive woman, I hope you can get her out ASAP. Please before you do so send copies of the abuse to the police, to the rspca and to the au pair agencies. If she argues you can let her know that you've already alerted the authorities and her agency. That should make it clear that you are serious and not willing to listen to her excuses or to let her stay. She should not be allowed to take any role caring for others and potential employers should be warned.

EdgeWithNoReason · 21/02/2020 16:51

What a disgusting human.

TSSDNCOP · 21/02/2020 16:33

Sacked. No ifs, no buts.

krustykittens · 21/02/2020 16:32

She should have been packing her bags five minutes after you saw the video, OP. I would want her out immediately - your colleague is an idiot.

LynetteScavo · 21/02/2020 16:23

I’d report to the RSPCA.

What action would you expect them to take?

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