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New au pair - no family/couple space!

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bleughhh · 26/10/2019 14:28

Hi - I am not sure if I am being mean/unreasonable but our new au pair is driving me mad. He has just finished school and this is the first time he has lived away from home. His profile was great and he made a big effort with it - he has experience working at summer camps for kids and lots of babysitting and wants to improve his English before starting university.

He is nice but always around - he has not left the house in two weeks other than once to join a gym. I have made a really detailed friendly 'welcome' handbook with nearest cafes, cinemas (cheap and nicer ones!), bars, gyms, shops, train station, bus routes and given him numbers for local au pairs who are sociable. We are also paying him top whack (max possible before we need to pay tax) so he can afford to go out.

He plays piano (badly) all the time, even when I am working from home and seems really needy. He asked me for to buy tissues for him last night (interrupted me when trying to chill in peace after last child had gone to bed at 10 pm to) as he has a cold (but behaves as if it is very serious), asks me for different bowls for his food, complains about our pans (which are fine...) and expects to come out each time I have said I'm taking the children out or my parents out for a meal. We took him to the pub, happily, last weekend for dinner on Saturday, I just don't want to keep paying for meals out for him every time we want to go out. He also asks me what is for lunch/supper every day.

I've told him he can put whatever he wants in the virtual shopping basket (we have two shops delivered a week) plus there is a kitty he can help himself to for any food he likes - I've told him where the local sainsbury is.

I've also found some amazing local English lessons in a cool cafe once a week but he seems reluctant to go - I said it was a good way to meet local young people, which he seems to want to do.

I paid for our current au pair (going home in a week) and him to go on the London Eye on Tues as it was sunny plus for lunch out at the south bank etc (and paid them both for the time as he had nothing to do otherwise and I thought it would be good to get him out of the house - plus he wants to shadow her). I asked him how his day was when he got home and he said 'long'. They left the house at 10 am and we're back by 3 and he had one well-behaved 4 year old to look after between them. I know the current au pair (leaving in a week) will have done all the looking after.

He also keeps grabbing and tickling my 4 year old even though she clearly doesn't like it. She is quite physical and affectionate but he's like an overbearing old person with no social empathy.

We've had two au pairs before. One was brilliant, the other a bit irritating at times but totally fine!

He WhatsApps me all the time too, asking when I will be back.

Do I try to talk to him or just accept there is too much to try to address?? Any ideas would be much appreciated. Thank you... I know I am probably being a cow but he is driving me mad...

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Annaspanna123 · 26/10/2019 22:23

From my experience with 8 aupairs you really have to set out early getting things right and a good balance of give and take ! However if it's not good in the beginning it rairly gets better, they generally get more lazy and take advantage of the good nature of a host family. Expecting to be mothered while they are here.

sadwithkiddies · 26/10/2019 21:05

I told my au pair very clearly when DD says no you stop tickling her.
I explained I want her to grow up knowing when she says no the man will listen.
He looked a bit confused but hasn't tickled her since 🤷‍♀️

Bluerussian · 26/10/2019 19:34

Don't let him tickle your child, tell him not to.

I think things will improve when he's been with you longer.

Rainbowshine · 26/10/2019 19:21

He also keeps grabbing and tickling my 4 year old even though she clearly doesn't like it. She is quite physical and affectionate but he's like an overbearing old person with no social empathy.

That’s the part that would make me end the arrangement now. You’re showing your daughter that a man can continually ignore her wishes about being touched.

Just end it now. I agree with others that a nanny may suit your needs better.

AnnaNimmity · 26/10/2019 19:13

(I always have au pairs who are older than 20 by the way - like you I don't need another child. Usually a post-university au pair works best)

AnnaNimmity · 26/10/2019 19:12

oh these threads always have posters on moaning about nannies and the pay/treatment of au pairs.

Let's assume the OP is not an exploitative employer and is treating her au pair as an au pair. OP it could go very wrong for you if he's already irritating you! On the other hand, he could just settle down.

I have been able to say to really overpowering au pairs that I need a bit of time in the evening (after 9pm ) just to watch the news on my own. That is fine. You could also ask him not to play the piano while you're working! I think anything you ask your own dcs to do, are fine to ask the AP to do.

And he may stop being annoying when he settles in, or you may find him too annoying, or he may realise that he's not cut out to be an au pair.

sadwithkiddies · 26/10/2019 19:06

my new male au pair is exactly the same - but i insist on 2 english classes a week...

he wattsapps me after a few hours 'when you coming home'....

i have tried writing a weekly schedule so he knows where he should be at all times
he asks for more hours/money but tutts when i ask him to look after the littler ones - his preference is the 2 teen boys not the toddler girl
he is messy - ive found 2 pools of spilt coffee in a week
he never seems to wash...

and this week he walked into my bedroom - knocking once the door was half open...

he is 19 - i do not need another kid!! aaarghhhhhh

so no advice.....but i feel for you

roses2 · 26/10/2019 19:01

This guy sounds over bearing. All of my au pairs found local friends and hung out with them in their free time - teenagers don't hang out with their parents.

Family time is important and it changes the dymanic having the au pair at dinner with your parents. I'd stop inviting him out for meals and make excuses. If in a few weeks he is still akward then it's time for a chat.

If I've understood correctly you live in London there is no excuse for him to not find other au pair friends!

MemmyJ · 26/10/2019 18:55

all other things aside, the way you describe him handling your four year old is reason enough to tell him it's not going to work out and find someone else. leaving him to look after her when she's uncomfortable and he doesn't appear to get her boundaries will presumably be a constant anxiety that won't get better.

PumpityPumpPump · 26/10/2019 16:13

The job sounds lush! Would love it!

ffswhatnext · 26/10/2019 15:56

A family member who receives pocket money, not a wage. Some family members are more social than others.
Although you have told him about the basket maybe he's not comfortable yet using it. Not everyone is one of my dd's won't go and put something in my basket. I don't know why she cannot understand it either.

LolaSmiles · 26/10/2019 15:52

I think TheCanterburyWhales has it spot on. Some families want a mature, independent live in childcare provider at au pair rates. I always understood that au pairs were meant to become part of the family and that would include coming on lots of family outings etc.

He sounds a bit more needy than most and I can see why that would be a little irritating, but it's early days.

MrsPellegrinoPetrichor · 26/10/2019 15:51

Sounds like you want a nanny.

forkfun · 26/10/2019 15:48

@TheCanterburyWhales hit the nail on the head.

stucknoue · 26/10/2019 15:48

You are meant to treat them like a member of the family. Going out with you is part of the deal. Older au pairs are more self sufficient

TheCanterburyWhales · 26/10/2019 15:45

Au-pairs are young, inexperienced and after a quid pro quo situation where they look after kids while experiencing life as part of the family

Unfortunately lots of families want a mature independent nanny at au-pair prices.

bleughhh · 26/10/2019 15:43

Hmm, Carolina, yes. I don't need a demanding 4th child though, given I work and life is pretty full on (good but can be stressful). He is more demanding than my 11 and 10 year old, by quite some way.

Yep - he has a very very detailed scheduled and loads of tips/advice. But I agree it is early days. Happy for him to be part of the family to some extent but we do need a little space occasionally. Ok, I will be clear with the schedule and give him a bit longer to settle in.

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DippyAvocado · 26/10/2019 15:38

I've never had an au pair myself but have always read on MN that they are to be treated as a member of the family, like an elder sibling. It's early days yet. He'll probably go out more once he's settled in. Maybe write out a daily routine for when you're not home so he doesn't have to keep what's apping you.

carolina21 · 26/10/2019 15:32

Sounds like he thinks your his mum

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