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Am I being overly anxious about hazards at CM’s house?

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YorkMum85 · 11/09/2019 10:55

I’d really love some opinions on this as I’m struggling. I am an anxious person anyway and am trying not to let it interfere with daily life, so sometimes it’s hard for me to see when I’m overreacting!

Daughter has recently turned 2 and has just started with a new childminder. She’s absolutely lovely and I think we’ll all work well together except for the issue of safety, or my perception of it at least.

There are a few large trees in the CM garden which shed small pine cones and conkers, and I’ve noticed that these don’t get cleared up that regularly, they are there for my DD to pick up (which she does). Unless the CM is on her every second of the day, I don’t understand how she can be sure this doesn’t pose a choking risk. I know it’s all part of Autumn and nature, so I’m not sure if I’m making too much fuss to expect them to be swept away every morning.

Secondly, the stair-gate has been left open twice when I’ve been there, and one time we couldn’t see my DD after she had headed in that direction, so she may well have been climbing the stairs (she wasn’t). She’s not confident on stairs yet at all and I’ve never left her near any without a stair-gate on.

I’ve mentioned these concerns twice to my CM and she’s been very kind and understanding, but the debris is still in the garden, and the stair-gate was still open when I went round this morning! Am I being over the top here? I know DD has to learn about hazards eventually, but this feels a bit too risky at such a young age..l

Any advice or experience you have on this matter is gratefully received!

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1CantPickAName · 11/09/2019 21:22

@YorkMum85 working together is the name of the game. I hope the negative comments haven’t put you off asking for future advice if you need it xx

YorkMum85 · 11/09/2019 21:00

Drogo I said specifically at a settling in session if you read my post again, as that seems to have become debatable judging by responses.

HTH.

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Drogosnextwife · 11/09/2019 20:41

You will find that all childminders and nursery workers will be of the opinion that they are in charge of their own setting. HTH.

YorkMum85 · 11/09/2019 20:29

Croquembou I said she was A 1yr old, not that she turned 1 a few short weeks ago. She was a 1yr old as she was not yet a 2yr old.

If you feel that the input you’ve given was worth it, then thanks.

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Croquembou · 11/09/2019 20:14

please bear in mind she was a 1yr old a few short weeks ago

She was 1 year old a year ago.

YorkMum85 · 11/09/2019 20:10

Thanks for all your opinions, I really do appreciate it.

From speaking to various people on here and in RL, it seems there is no one consensus on whether I as the parent am in charge at a settling session, or the CM as the manager of the setting is in charge, so I think I’ll chalk that up to personal opinions and keep in mind that CM may be of the former opinion.

My DD does know we eat at the table, but please bear in mind she was a 1yr old a few short weeks ago... maybe if I’d said she was 1yr I might’ve got different replies... who knows!

Anyway, points taken, I’ll try to relax and work with the CM. Thanks again!

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1CantPickAName · 11/09/2019 19:46

I’m going to go against the grain and say that I’m my home I’m in charge, that way there is no awkwardness when the parents are around and the kids know they can’t play up. When the parents are here to sign paperwork etc. I let the kids go off and play independently and the parents don’t stay too long during settling in sessions as I don’t think the children settle properly when their parents are here.

I also after that the pine cones etc in the garden are not a big deal, but neither is the stair gate. I have a 2yo that I mind and I never close the gate, he is very independent but also knows that he is not allowed on the stairs and it’s not an issue, this is a recent development because, of course I had to wait until he was old enough to understand and I had to ensure I could trust him. This is very much dependent on the children I care for. I had a little girl who, at nearly 3, would make every attempt to climb the stairs. Whenever she was in my setting, I had to close the stair gate and barricade the banisters, at one point she climbed up the stairs in the outside of the railings/banisters, that was a hair-raising moment!

You have to trust that your childminder has done a thorough risk assessment and won’t ever do anything that will harm your child. This includes not leaving her unattended in the garden.

An open and honest relationship is the best way for parents and childminders, you should always feel you can discuss your concerns and feel at ease with the responses.

Good Luck, I think your daughter will thrive in an easygoing environment

Iggly · 11/09/2019 19:43

As soon as my dcs could move I made sure I taught them how to come up and down stairs safely. It’s really important IMO.

The conkers issue - I actually understand but only because I’m quite anxious myself and I remember worrying about it when the dcs were younger but I knew I was being ridiculous.

You need to find out the triggers for your anxiety and work out ways to manage them.

GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 11/09/2019 19:40

I like to see how parents deal with their children actually. It helps me to know if we are compatible.

Nonnymum · 11/09/2019 19:26

OP in agree with Drogothat most childminders will let the parent deal with the child if they are there.

mankyfourthtoe · 11/09/2019 19:21

Yes, I had the one in all in rule. Ring doorbell so I could see who was there and all went to the loo first, inc me.
Have you seen her risk assessments

Cismyfatarse1 · 11/09/2019 19:20

Conkers? Bonkers?

Drogosnextwife · 11/09/2019 19:18

I'll get the two 1 year olds on that tomorrow, they will love it!

mankyfourthtoe · 11/09/2019 19:17

Yabu
At 2 I'd not be expecting your child to eat from the garden floor, I'd expect them to understand we eat food at the table. I'd also expect them to know where they can and can't go, irrespective of a gate.
Chm don't need a gate, they just need to show how they will keep ch safe.

Bookworm4 · 11/09/2019 19:13

@drogo
Here you go; you can teach your young charges; nice safe activity 😉
www2.fiskars.com/Ideas-and-How-Tos/Gardening-and-Yard-Care/Wood-Preparing/The-Art-of-Kindling

Drogosnextwife · 11/09/2019 18:34

@Bookworm4 I don't even know if there is such a think as kindling skills, but it sounds like a good thing to have 😂

BlueBirdGreenFence · 11/09/2019 18:27

At that age would it not be a bigger risk having a stairgate as they are now tall enough to climb them and possibly fall over the top?

It's clear that you are very anxious and a good, caring parent that many of us would have loved to have had. But think about this rationally. If I saw my neighbour at 7am every morning in the garden picking up random bits of nature and asked 'What are you doing?' and she said back 'Just lifting potential choking hazards of the ground like conkers and pinecones' I would think she was bonkers. Would you honestly not?

Looneytune253 · 11/09/2019 18:27

I'm a childminder and ofsted don't insist on stairgates anymore, they are more interested in whether a cm teaches the children how to manage the stairs effectively (best practice) and how a cm would generally manage risks like that. The children are never allowed in my passage (where the stairs are) on their own but children are usually pretty competent when they're 2.5/3. Also children of that age are never left in the garden alone. if I need the loo or another child needs a nappy change, we ALL come inside. Conkers are Minimal choking risk tho surely? They are too big!! But you can't remove all risks like that, there'll be pebbles and soil and sticks etc. You just have to supervise.

Bookworm4 · 11/09/2019 18:26

@drogo
I was quite interested in your kindling skills😉

Drogosnextwife · 11/09/2019 18:03

*minding skills, not kindling

glitterelf · 11/09/2019 17:38

Whilst it's understandable that you are concerned the fact is that at 2yrs old your child will be more independent and able to start risk assessing for herself. Regarding pine cones and conkers it would be impossible for your childminder to ensure nothing was there as it's nature after all and these items that fall will be great learning resources. Stair gates should not be used after a child reaches 24 months of age as they pose risks beyond this age therefore they are not recommended. I have been Childminding for years and do not have a stair gate and this has never been an issue where Ofsted are concerned.

sageandonionstuffing · 11/09/2019 17:29

I don’t think YABU about the stair gate, but YDABU about the conkers and pine cones.

Drogosnextwife · 11/09/2019 17:27

YorkMum85

I am a childminder and I don't attempt to show my kindling skill while parents are in my setting, I don't need to. Your child, you parent them. Once your dd goes to nursery, the nursery workers won't parent your child for you when you arrive.

insancerre · 11/09/2019 17:25

I run a nursery and we’ve got loads of conkers inside and out
And pine cones
Which the children have free access to

Bookworm4 · 11/09/2019 17:14

@yorkmum
I didn’t think saying Dear God was offensive, get over yourself 🤣

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