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Aupair's boyfriend sleepovers

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Isuxasanannyboss · 10/05/2019 10:59

Hi, I've read all previous posts about this topic and I'm still not sure how to manage the situation. Lovely aupair whom we treat as part of the family (albeit my complain to her is that she's a bit untidy and doesn't clean so our housekeeper cleans her bedroom), she's got a lovely boyfriend. Her (tiny) room is on the other side of the flat and has a relatively independent entrance. I say 'relatively independent' because it is one that we also use when we have wet shoes or need to hang coats.
She's been with us for quite a long time, on and off (because she returned to her country and came back). In the past our rules where no visitors. Period. No friends, no boyfriends. As I got to know her, I allowed her to bring some friends with previous notice. We never really met the previous boyfriend, because he didn't want to come. She started a new relationship last year. The guy is an English guy who lives in London and has his own flat (a bit further away from home but still local). We met him, we like him a lot and I'm happy that she's happy. We have invited him to come to the country over a weekend. I've told her that he can come home but I also asked her not to bring him unannounced.
I found out that her boyfriend has been staying regularly overnight. I heard the door once at 6am and she told me it was him and that he had stayed because she was unwell and was looking after her. I thought it had been a one-off occurrence. Two days ago I ran into him in the morning when I went to get my coat. I wasn't happy to see him.
I feel uncomfortable with the boyfriend (or any friends) staying overnight without asking in advance or at the very least letting me know. I don't feel comfortable with the boyfriend being a regular feature in the house, laying on the sofa watching a movie or having dinner at ours.
I'm not sure what is it. I would feel exactly the same if she was my daughter, I don't know if it's a control thing, the way I was brought up, the country where I come from or what.
She had a difficult upbringing. Her mum was very conservative and controlling and suffered from bipolar. Once mum died, everyone did whatever they wanted. I come from a traditional catholic family, although I'm not religious myself.
I feel invaded. I feel I choose one person to live with but not that person and whoever she wants to bring whenever she wants. I feel we're being taken for granted, I want to be reasonable, I'm open to show a degree of flexibility but I also want to feel comfortable in my own house. I don't want to feel I may run into someone who is staying overnight, no matter how lovely her boyfriend is.
How have you managed this situation yourselves, what are your house rules, please be absolutely honest if I'm being unreasonable. I may print this thread and show it to her so I want to hear as many different points of view as there are.
Thanks

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Isuxasanannyboss · 10/05/2019 20:16

@Zakana I would have loved having someone financing my masters.

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Isuxasanannyboss · 10/05/2019 20:14

@Applesbananaspears why do you think it's foolish? If it's in my power to help someone who in turn will be helping me, why not?

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Milkn0sugar · 10/05/2019 20:13

I would just say that you and DH have decided that you don't want overnight visitors in your home - nothing personal against her boyfriend who you like very much and he's still very welcome to come away for country visits etc. (which is generous of you). It would be better for her to stay at his on a Friday and Saturday night as presumably she isn't needed for an early start on a Saturday or Sunday? She could also see him in the evenings and return back to yours alone, or stay over at his midweek and do the early start once a week. That's 3 nights a week already. If that's not enough then I think it's a case of negotiating a different package as a live out babysitter. My parents had an au pair once but they got cheesed off when his girlfriend assumed she could stay regularly. It felt like an invasion of their home and they hated it.

Itwouldtakemuchmorethanthis · 10/05/2019 19:34

But why would you want someone else’s partner in your house on Friday and Saturday night???Confused

englishdictionary · 10/05/2019 19:28

She is bringing a strange man into your children's home?

Not acceptable. The fact that she did it behind your back would be the end for me. There has to be trust.

Mygoodlygodlingtons · 10/05/2019 19:22

I would say that her boyfriend could stay over on Friday and Saturday nights only in order to fit in with your family. She is an adult woman.

The danger is that she will move out, move in with him, and leave you in the lurch with regard to childcare.

Zakana · 10/05/2019 19:16

OP I’ll come and live and work for you for what you are offering, quite happy not to have a boyfriend back there, lol I’m nearly 50 btw but I would have jumped at the chance of a job like this at her age, I don’t think you are BU, as long as she has time away to see her bloke away from your home overnight. Oh, and I have loads of child care experience btw!

Jedeye · 10/05/2019 19:13

Wow £32k!

Applesbananaspears · 10/05/2019 19:08

You’ve loaned her £32k for her masters. I think that this was extremely foolish regardless of your feelings towards her.

northerngirl2012 · 10/05/2019 19:08

And £32k!!

northerngirl2012 · 10/05/2019 19:07

I think if she’s 27, discrete & you value her work I’d leave it.

harrietkatie · 10/05/2019 19:04

I would definitely speak to her regarding this. I'm sure she will understand.

Turpy · 10/05/2019 19:03

You lent her £32,000 😱😱😱

Isuxasanannyboss · 10/05/2019 18:55

Yes Pinkyredrose, pre-paid for her masters and gave her an advance of her allowance. I'm just mentioning it because I want to put in perspective what type of relationship we have, how much we care about the girl, etc.
Again, I'm not policing her sex life, I would feel the same if she was bringing a girlfriend over. I'm policing who comes in and out of my house but I want to be reasonable hence I like hearing different opinions because they make me think.

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harrietkatie · 10/05/2019 18:52

I was an au pair in New Zealand when I was younger, I would never dream of doing that, I find it disrespectful.

Isuxasanannyboss · 10/05/2019 18:49

TaxiGood, it's for her convenience, as I said she's got an early start and he lives in Peckham so she'd have to wake up at 6 or so to be in SW11 by 7am. If you like to dance, you pay the piper!
Also after I take the kids to school she has all the morning to herself and part of the afternoon, unless she's got school. So if she had a busy night she could take a nap. I wouldn't have a problem with that.

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pinkyredrose · 10/05/2019 18:44

You've loaned her 32k?!

TaxiGood · 10/05/2019 18:38

Why can’t she stay at his? I can’t imagine why a grown man would prefer sleeping in a tiny room in someone else’s flat when he’s got his own place.

Isuxasanannyboss · 10/05/2019 18:31

@Ourchristmasmiracle, if she's not babysitting she's free to go out in her own time. I don't police where she goes. I understand that she prefers not to go out during the week because she's expected to help me with the kids in the first hour of the morning (7am) to get them ready to go to school. She usually comes to the kitchen still in her pajamas. If she was an early riser she could perfectly go out and be with her boyfriend and come back before 7. As a matter of fact, our live out housekeeper arrives at 7am.

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OurChristmasMiracle · 10/05/2019 18:26

My question is what are your rules about her being away overnight? Do you expect her to let you know she’s not returning home?

MashedSpud · 10/05/2019 18:23

I wouldn’t allow it. I assume she’s been police checked to work around your children, he has not.

She can go to his home or to a hotel. Your home is for your family and people you invite, not the friends or bf of the au pair.

Isuxasanannyboss · 10/05/2019 18:22

I'd like to add a bit of background because I think we have treated her very well and the boyfriend situation makes me feel taken for granted and wondering if I have treated her too well.
She gets a weekly allowance of £180 for up to 30 hours of help. Normally she helps me one hour in the morning and up to 4 hours in the afternoon. This sum is guaranteed whether we are here or we travel without her. She attends Uni and can't help some times but we still guarantee that amount.

On top of the weekly allowance, she gets paid more if she helps us more hours during the week, like on school holidays. I pay her more when she helps on weekends. If she travels with us, I pay her more and also I pay her an overnight rate.
We have loaned her £32K to allow her to pay for her masters and get a student visa. She's paying us back with her help.
Again, this is a girl I care about, I want the best for her, I'm just finding the boyfriend situation a bit too much.

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Applesbananaspears · 10/05/2019 18:21

No boyfriends staying over, in fact I always said no overnight guests at all. End of. It’s my home and I don’t like our own friends and family staying over let alone other people’s. I had aupairs for years, they all stayed for between 1-3 years and it was never an issue

Turpy · 10/05/2019 18:19

You are complicating this way too much. If you don’t like the boyfriend staying then just tell her that he can’t. No need to analyse the whole situation.

byteme1011 · 10/05/2019 18:19

I think you need to have a sit down with her and explain what she has done wrong (ie brought him home without permission). Ask her why she can't stay at his place. I'll be honest if they are already being discrete I don't think she'll stop bringing him over.