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Nanny and playgroups

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Sp1983 · 25/03/2019 21:49

Can i get some thoughts about nannies and playgroups?
We have been looking for a nanny for 2 days a week for my 2 and 5 year old. My 5 year old is at school so mainly it's the 2 year old at home all day. My LO has lunch at 11.30am, then sleeps from 12 until about 2.30-2.45pm. This is the time they would have to leave from home to pick up the older one. This means that after school drop off there is only about 2.5hrs of one-to-one time that the nanny has with the 2yr old before lunch, nap and pick up. And this is only 2 days a week.
We've been interviewing for nannies and they all seem unhappy that we've said we're not that keen for playgroups. They've said it's good for his social interaction and that they need some adult conversation.
My issues with this are- he gets plenty of social interaction the other 3days and are the playgroups for the benefit of the child or the nanny?
The nanny only really has to fill 2.5hrs of time in the day with him and I'd like that in that time he gets her full attention as once the older one gets home he has to share attention again.
I understand that nannying is a long day, but surely that is just the job. They all knew that most of their time would be with kids not having adult conversation. I also work in a job where there is not much adult conversation but my employer would never be happy for me to meet up with my friends and chat while i am at work. I would be asked to find a job where i could have social interaction with adults or do it in my own time.
I also feel that i am paying a nanny to do creative and educational things for my child. Playgroups are a way of outsourcing this so that the nanny can take a break and let someone else do what they are many to be doing. I can understand if it's a group that can't be done at home eg forest school, but singing and dancing can be done at home.
And it's only two days a week. Would understand more if it was 5 days and the nanny needed some variety.
Can i have your thoughts please.
Thanks

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Rtmhwales · 25/03/2019 22:37

I was a nanny for a long time, including four years during which I stayed home for three years with a newborn and then when he was a toddler, with him and his newborn brother. The parents didn't want me to go out with them until they were 3 and nearly 2. Didn't bother me in the least. They're the ones paying me and I parented as they wished.

NannyR · 25/03/2019 22:34

I'm a nanny who looks after similar aged children (5, 3 and 20 months). I do go to playgroups (amongst many other outings and activities) - nannying can be a pretty lonely job from a point of view of adult company and I think it's great for toddlers to learn about sharing toys and equipment. I certainly don't get to put my feet up, chasing after and supervising a toddler in a room full of toys and kids.

I keep things flexible though, if the weather is lovely we go to the park. Also, the three year old is getting a bit too old to go to playgroup, he doesn't really enjoy it so we do something else on the day he's not at nursery.

Although it's quite a tight schedule fitting in school runs and naps, I feel I do get to spend enough one to one time with the toddler - I have her in the pram facing me so we chat a lot whilst walking to and from school, play groups etc, I'll get her to 'help' in the kitchen whilst I'm making lunch, there's always time for books and music.
I think she would be bored if it was just me and her all the time and their mum actively encourages me to attend groups for the socialization aspect. She has said that she expects me to look after them the same way that she would if she was a sahm and she would go to playgroups etc.

crimsonlake · 25/03/2019 22:32

I think the main issue here is that you see playgroups as a break for the nanny, you need to change your mindset.

LittleBirdBlues · 25/03/2019 22:31

I get where you are coming from OP. I also have a 5 year old (as well as a 3 year old and a baby). Between the school drop off, sorting lunch and then school pickup, it sometimes feels like all I do is ferry the two younger kids from A to B. If I squeeze in a playgroup or some other activity in the morning, I feel like I barely interact with them beyond the necessary communication.

Playgroups are great, but for a young child I feel that calm, unstructured time at home is also important. As is one to one attention.

I your situation I would probably say one day at home, one day at a group.

Zebedee88 · 25/03/2019 22:20

I'm a nanny and I actually fully understand where you're coming from. Personally when the children were that age , we did do something everyday. Must days it was a group but a day or two would be the local farm or woods etc. Like you said, it's literally 2 days a week! One morning they could do arts and crafts, baking together and the other they could go and do some outdoors activities. Doesn't need to go a group.

Di11y · 25/03/2019 22:18

are you at home with the toddler on the other 3 days taking him to groups?

I do sympathise, my childminder is wonderful and my 18mo loves going to toddler groups with her, but with naps and school run there isn't time left to do crafts or much in the way of reading etc.

I do wonder whether she'd learn more through play at nursery where it's more set up with learning objectives in mind.

if I had the luxury of a nanny I think I'd want more one on one attention like you.

arseabouttit · 25/03/2019 22:12

I think if you find the right nanny you won't be worrying so much about the playgroup thing because you will trust that if they sometimes go to playgroup (bad weather / variety) you will know that they will be interacting with your child and helping them join in with whatever activities are on offer, not ignoring them and drinking coffee. You need to look at the big picture and get someone with good references.

buckeejit · 25/03/2019 22:12

Here the playgroups are basically church toddlers groups that follow school calendars so off at all the same times as school holidays. I'm a childminder & my 2-3year olds love going to the playgroups for a couple of hours. They'd much rather be around a big group of people to play with than 1 grown up. Nanny should be keeping a good eye on dc & quick to respond though

Sp1983 · 25/03/2019 22:06

Thank you for your reply.
I should've said i have no issues with her taking him out. As i said above, I'd love for her to take him out walking, park farms. We have a forest just a few mins walk from our house. Being out is not a problem. It's just the playgroup i don't like.
And the reason is, before i had kids i saw many childminder/ nannies taking kids to soft play for example, sitting and having coffee with friends and completely ignoring their children

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Gottalovesummer · 25/03/2019 22:02

Honestly? Don't restrict your child's activities. They'll always be time for crafts/music/reading etc at home.

2 year olds usually love being out amd about, they learn so much and it doesn't mean your nanny will be doing nothing! She'll still be supervising and interacting with your child at playgroup.

I think you'll struggle to find a nanny who'll be willing to take the job and be restricted in the way you mention.

Sp1983 · 25/03/2019 21:58

I'm more than happy for the nanny to take the baby out. He loves to be out and wouldn't want to sit inside the house anyway. I'd love for her to take him to the park, library is very close by, woodland walk etc. I just don't like the idea of playgroups

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Sp1983 · 25/03/2019 21:56

Isn't a nanny's job to look after a child in the way that the parents want? Surely that's why you are employing someone to look after your child only, so that you have control over what happens. Otherwise could just put your child in a nursery and just accept whatever the nursery does.
The point of a nanny is to have personalised care, exact how the parents would like it.

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Wildboar · 25/03/2019 21:54

I think your child will benefit more from going out and about than indoors with a nanny. Can you compromise and say 1 day playgroup and one day something else (farm, park, library etc)

BillywilliamV · 25/03/2019 21:51

You go and do your job and let the Nanny get on with hers, is my advice.