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WordsAndWorlds · 18/03/2019 13:46

It's suddenly just dawned on me. What happens in Year 7-9 when they're still too little to just come home and be alone until we get in from work?

Do most senior schools offer afterschool clubs? I didn't think they did...

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Hoppinggreen · 20/03/2019 14:55

I agree with jannier kids might be capable but if it’s possible for you to be at home when they get in or arrange for someone to collect them AND that’s what the child wants why not?
My DS is in y5 and is perfectly capable of walking down to the carpark I pick him up from but if he asks me to walk up to meet him I will. When he starts Secondary if he wants me to walk down to meet him when he comes out and I’m able to then I will (I appreciate probably won’t )

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 20/03/2019 14:49

jannier excellent post. Just because something can happen (11 can be home alone without burning the house down) doesn't make it ideal or right. I do not want DD, when she is 11, to be home alone for 2-3 hours 5 days a week. Or, certainly to begin with, even 1 day a week.

jannier · 20/03/2019 14:27

Its not about the maturity of an 11 year old or the ability to walk themselves home most do this at year 6) its about the loneliness of a child who has gone to a big school away from the teachers who knew them form nursery, the coping with bullying and 15 year olds the size of an adult pushing and shoving (and worse) in the corridor's, friends from old schools who don't talk to them any more, homework they forgot or don't understand and unloading about the day. In the first term especially it can be a difficult transition and the world is not the same as it was 20 years ago with online pressures even your own bedroom is not always a safe place.
Most children are fine 70% of the time but some days they need someone to talk to now not in 3 hours time so if you can find someone it is better for your child's mental health than an empty house. Being concerned and wanting to have a plan is not being over protective in a world where teens are facing a lot more stress than ever before.

Can you see if a friend will take turns in coming to yours then theirs?

pearldeodorant · 18/03/2019 15:21

My neighbour has a good arrangement; lift shares where possible and then also twice a week, her 12 year old is dropped back by their cleaning lady, a friend of the family, who sits with her for about half an hour and makes sure she's had a snack/drink etc

It's just enough to make sure 1. She can physically get back from school (it's only about 15 mins but she plays cello and can't easily carry it down the road from the bus stop (0.5 miles) and 2. The house isn't dark and lonely and 3. She's eaten/drunk something and is comfortable to get on with her homework until her parents are back

The cleaner divides her time between these two days and I think only does 1.5 hours each so it's not like it's costing the parents a fortune. It's a sort of cleaner/childcare arrangement that's unusual but could be sort of what you're looking for. Where you'd even start finding someone who'd fit that sort of job I don't know though. I'm with you; at 11 it seems an awfully long time for them to be on their own every single night.

Haskell · 18/03/2019 15:15

Both the school I work in, and my children's school (state schools) allow pupils to stay in the library after school until 5pm. There is also a public library open three afternoons a week close by. Are these options for you? There are lots of after school sports, clubs etc too.

Comefromaway · 18/03/2019 15:03

Myself, I walked home alone and was also home alone in tyhe school holidays from the age of 10 onwards (what is now Year 5/6)

Comefromaway · 18/03/2019 15:02

from the age of 11 both mine were able to be left for a couple of hours alone. (they are both autistic)

From the age of 13 they were left alone during the school holidays too.

I work about half an hour away from where we live. The main issue is losing keys.

RoseMartha · 18/03/2019 14:46

I have yr 7 kids and can not leave them to come home alone and be without an adult as dd has asd. Even if she did not i would be reluctant to let them spend 2.5 hours alone. I only work part time and am there to collect from school. But if I had to work at that time of day I would find a cm for them. School has after sch clubs usually until 4.15, no other provisions.

cptartapp · 18/03/2019 14:46

Mine walked home and let themselves in at this age. We live semi rurally and work half an hour away too, with only one neighbour who works full time and no family in the county. Once a week for an hour, and once for two hours. They had to, and were absolutely fine.

Ratatouille76 · 18/03/2019 14:45

My dd starts secondary this year but no buses go to our village so we will have to pick her up and I'm not entirely sure how that will work if we are both at work all day

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WordsAndWorlds · 18/03/2019 14:39

in fairness I only work 15 mins away from home (by car, he couldn't walk to me) so if I get him a mobile, I could be there in no time at all if there was a problem...

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mrsm43s · 18/03/2019 14:38

Yes, its absolutely the norm.

That said, my children do lots after school - sports/orchestra/play rehearsals etc, so they are often still at school til 5.30 or so anyway. And there's always the option of going to the library to do homework.
We're generally back in time to collect at 5.30 if necessary. I'd actually be more concerned in the winter about them walking home, alone, in the dark at 5.30, even though we'd be home by the time that they got back than I would be about them walking home at 4pm, in the light, with other school friends walking the same way and being alone at home for a couple of hours.

WordsAndWorlds · 18/03/2019 14:38

I was never alone either, Weeping. It just seems really young to me...from about 15, fine. But if everybody else is doing this I do feel a little more reassured that it must be ok...

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mishgs · 18/03/2019 14:38

My DS is due to start high school in September & I'm going to keep him with his childminder for a good few months to see how things go. It's good company for an hour or so & time to chat about their day until we get home. Reassuring for me if nothing else!

olderthanyouthink · 18/03/2019 14:37

Just make sure they are sensible enough to get appropriate help if something goes wrong. I had a school friend come round because she got locked out when I was a kid, she let her Mum know where she was.

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 18/03/2019 14:33

I find this sneering at parents being concerned about this if their DC are NT pretty unpleasant, tbh.

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WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 18/03/2019 14:32

I suppose for some of us that is something that simply never happened - I am a younger sister so was never home alone at that age and in fact we stayed at school (private) and did our homework until about 6pm. And less than an hour is not the same as up to 3 hours.

So being home alone after school is not part of my childhood. And we would have no back up, and it takes at least 45 mins for either of us to get home.

WordsAndWorlds · 18/03/2019 14:30

We'd be home by 6pm, so 2.5 hours alone, school is only a 15 min walk away with no busy roads.

So is it the norm for an 11 year old to just come home and let themselves into the house and wait until parents back? I feel better if so...just felt like it was an awful thing to do! He's quite young but sensible for his age.

No family nearby and all friends going to a different school due to catchment re: sharing with other mums

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MyDcAreMarvel · 18/03/2019 14:26

Unless they have a disability that prevents them then they go home. Years 7-9 is not little. My dd went home on her own for 45 mins from year five.

joliejoleen · 18/03/2019 14:24

DS is in year 6. He comes home on his own and is alone for about 2-3 hours until I get home. At this age they should really be fine to do that.

Gottalovesummer · 18/03/2019 14:24

I'm also a cm and children tend to stay on with me through year 7.

They usually have LOADS to talk about after school, they're at a new school and there can be lots of friendship issues etc

It really helps them to have someone to talk to, make them a snack and just to have the company of the other kids.

Is a cm an option for you? They usually tail off by year 8 but like Jannier they're always welcome to drop by.

elliejjtiny · 18/03/2019 14:23

My dc's secondary school has a homework club in the library after school. There is a holiday club as well.

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